We challenge the premise of the “Lord of the Flies,” the classic novel about a group of six boys who stuck together to survive while stranded on a deserted island. What lessons of hope does this story provide for our current world?

Guests

Rutger Bregman, historian. Author of "Utopia for Realists" and "Human Kind: A Hopeful History." (@rcbregman)

Jack Beatty, On Point News Analyst. (@JackBeattyNPR)

From The Reading List

Excerpt from "Human Kind: A Hopeful History" by Rutger Bregman

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This program airs on July 13, 2020. Audio will be available after the broadcast