Time magazine has declared 2020 the ‘worst year ever’ but a historian says it doesn’t even make the top five.

Professor of history at Arizona State University, Catherine O’Donnell, says “it gets a lot worse than this”.

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But Professor O’Donnell says that doesn’t mean 2020 isn’t a bad year.

“I don’t mean to suggest it’s not awful … but there are just all these dreadful things that have happened,” she told Tony Jones, filling in for Neil Mitchell.

“There are just so many examples, I think, of years that are more deadly and create more human suffering and uncertainty than 2020.”