Dinner for Dickens

Catherine Dickens is best known as the wife of the famous Victorian novelist. But in 1851 Catherine -- or Kate as she preferred to be called -- also published a book of her own, called "What Shall We Have for Dinner?" under the pseudonym Lady Maria Clutterbuck. The collection of menus was revised five times over the next nine years and is now the subject of a new book called "Dinner for Dickens: The Culinary History of Mrs Charles Dickens". Jenni Murray talks to the book's author, Susan Rossi Wilcox, and to Professor John Sutherland about Kate Dickens, her culinary skills and the role food plays in Dickens' work.