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Jun 25, 2006 10:48 pm


CLINTON AGAINST FREE SPEECH IN DENMARK AS IN CHINA



I came back from teaching only to discover that the former president, who had nothing to say about Yahoo helping China to put a subscriber in jail for being a whistle blower, has plenty to say about a Danish paper publishing offensive cartoons. Clearly he knows who is paying for his new lifestyle. In any case, a man like Clinton will never stand up to dangerous entities like China or Saudi Arabia when he can pick on safe democratic Denmark.

I was going to write shame on him but I know too well the man does not know the meaning of the word.



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Wayne A Carlson - 8/22/2006

YOU ARE UNDOUBTEDLY GAY. Everywhere you look and listen people make fun of religeons, other people, countries etc. For the islamonazi's to react this way proves their lack of education, unbridled and blind fanaticism, not to mention their total hypocracy. Moreover to think clinton was a great president underminds the office...or did you forget he was impeached ?


Wayne A Carlson - 8/22/2006

You are undoubtedly gay, clinton a brilliant man ? how stupid can you be ? you ever hear the line "I did not have sexual relations..." I could go on and on. In your socialist country he would fit great, here he was impeached for his lies remember ? If that indicates greatness to you then stay in your cloud of liberalism and shame. Redneck billy-boy's comments show his two-faced political drive goes way beyond his realization of freedoms that Americans have fought and died for. America has helped this world many times when it didn't have to do a thing. I suppose you think what Clinton did in Somalia is some how different than what other presidents have done elsewhere. America is hated until needed, and she has always come through. What has your pansy-ass country ever done ? I do wish America would get out of every country and protect our borders especially the one you are on the other side of pointing your finger from. And when some country needs help you can lead your country to help them. Fat chance eh ? Tell me oh wise one, why doesn't your country do more for the world, and why is it,the first one the world EXPECTS to help always the USA ?


Wayne A Carlson - 8/22/2006

Fabulously written.....Thank You


Wayne A Carlson - 8/22/2006

WOW...what are you smoking ? please whatever it is give some to the peaceful suicide bombers


someperson - 5/3/2006

I see that this part has become a little off topic itself, so I would like to add my two cents in.

If the people who made the cartoons have the freedom of speech, how come you condemn others for excercising their right to it?

Lets take two examples from this right now.
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004413.htm
This is where the cartoons are posted

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004462.htm
Here is what some people believe

I see no difference in free speech here, though you clearly tell the people in the second one that they are sick. Sure, perhaps the one with the severed head is a little off, but they have that right, and by saying it's sick, you are saying they are wrong for expressing their feelings, just as the muslim extremists who are doing stupid things in Denmark because someone produced a picture of their prophet.

That's all I have to say, you're being no better than the people who are doing these things to Denmark by posting that second link I have shared. If we have a right to free speech, then we have a right to free speech. It's not only certain people, and you can't stop it if you don't agree with it. You do not have the right to not be offended.


Alien - 5/3/2006

I hope you know that Allah is just the muslim word for God. If you don't, please learn. So by saying there is no Allah, you are saying there is no God. Shame on you.

I do have a question for you. Have you ever read the holy book of the Islamic religion? Just wondering.

And yes, I'm a Christian. I think bible thumpers like you need to step down off your soap box as well and learn to take your head out of your asses and see what's actually going on in the world, not just the country. Look around on some news websites that AREN'T from the USA. You'll see a lot more is going on than you think. "Oh, but we're not allowed to know that, so I'm not going to look," you say. Fine, keep your head up your ass then. I'm a firm believer in natural selection. :0)


Alayne - 5/3/2006

I like you, will you be my friend. :0D

I agree with you. I think people need to just step back and stop being stupid. A lot of people are talking about how muslims aren't being just and all that crap. Well, ya know what, attacking with words is just as bad, and just provokes even more. If people would open their eyes and understand this concept, perhaps this crap wouldn't happen.

I don't see that being in the plan any time soon. Because, of course, the "war on terror" is still going on, even though our own govermnent is terrorizing us just by putting these thoughts of war by the extremist muslims in our head. Yeah, thanks. I really wanted to be rude to people who probably wouldn't mind being a friend. You're all assholes and need to get the fuck down off your soap box.
/government_rant

Yeah, like I said, I think you're right, even though we may be called Muslims or Jews or Christians, at the end of the day, ALL THE RELIGIONS HAVE THE SAME GOD. He's just worshiped in a different way, with a semi-different set of beliefs.

This almost sounds like a catholic-protestant fight. It's starting to piss me off. lol


Alayne - 5/3/2006

Something to add as well:
Every superpower eventually falls. Look to the past, because the past is always repeated by people who make the same mistakes, instead of learning from them. It is happening right now, and I can see the downfall just on the horizon, which disheartens me. It will happen again unless the people in charge learn from the past mistakes of those in charge of earlier superpowers.


Alayne - 5/3/2006

Actually, I do believe it was laws passed WAY BEFORE any president of this time was in office, ya know, about how it's illegal to kill people? I guess that's just in the morality of people once it's a law in a place you live in...

Please stop saying things out of stupidity. You make my brain want to cry.


Abdel - 5/2/2006

shut up man, you don't know shit about all that stuff. Ya jsut open ya mouth like a bitch thinking ya know the truth. Everything around you is false, encouraging danish cartoon? Like to provoke Muslims? Want war to have peace? Ya a haters? Ya arrogant?Ya just a bitch? Yes, yes, you are. Go buy ya danish cookies and shut the fuck up


Alex Moon - 3/29/2006

To those who believe that Allah is one and the same as our Judeo-Christian god and maker .. there is NO Allah at all. Islam is merely the rabid ramblings of a murderous thief and womanizer, having no morals better than any alley cat. There is no love, no redemption, no forgiveness in Islam; just the raving lunacy of a ancient jealousy that refuses to accept the sovereign will of God.


Haris Ali - 3/19/2006

Hey Crusaders...check this out...

These two laws of Denmark should definitely be implied to the blasphemous cartoons:

“Those who publicly mock or insult the doctrines or worship of any religious community that s legal in this country, will be punished by a fine or incarceration for up to four months.” Penal Code, Section 140

“Any person who publicly or with the intention of dissemination to a wide circle of people makes a statement or imparts other information threatening, insulting or degrading a group of persons on account of their race, color, national or ethnic origin, belief or sexual orientation, shall be liable to a fine, simple detention or imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years.” Penal Code, Section 266B:


Michel - 3/18/2006

Free speech ending when others rights began!


wayne cooper - 3/7/2006

You say we all beleave in the same God, I agree, however you are a Muslim and I am a Christian.


wayne cooper - 3/7/2006

There is only one side , suicide bombers are killers!!
Killers go to Hell!!!
Americans will not tolerate Killers.
You know that Thanks to President Bush.


wayne cooper - 3/7/2006

Thank you Mark Harris


wayne cooper - 3/7/2006

This person is stuck on stupid!
Facts and truth will not help him.


Moustafa - 3/5/2006

Ok let me start off by saying that at the end of the day we are all believing in the same god and we are not inclined to suggest otherwise. i would like to say that i have read all posted comments and have something to say. i don't believe that using the term extremist or fanatics is just. i don't believe that this mudslinging from both sides is appropriate. Just because one person who happens to be muslim goes and causes mischief and so called "barbarity" doesn't give anyone the right to stereotype all muslims and the religion in which we follow. I am a young muslim and i cannot believe what i am reading. I was hoping to read as i am researching about the "freedom of speech" issue valid arguments and legitimate arguments. All i can see is rude comments made against my religion. I don't go around making a mock out of christianity, judaism or any other religion. I respect all religions as god forbids us to make a mock of other religions as we are to respect all other religions and their followers. I believe that if you adults if you may call yourselves want to ensure that the future "Adults" do not have such a hatred against eachother make a good example that the current issues that are occuring does not cause a friction between us. I see my mother get screamed at and see other muslim women get spat at. Do you call this humanial behaviour. I disagree however how many of you people label muslims as "they","you people", "your kind". We are all human beings and the sooner you ADULTS start acting like human beings the soon us "YOUTHS" grow up to be united whether it is Muslims, Christians, Jews, Orthodox and etc. I must say that reading all the above comments it has made me love my religion much more and alhamdurallah i am a born and bred muslim and thank you all for taking the time to read my comments. And please just demonstrate love to one another thats all this world needs LOVE.


G - 2/23/2006

Please only appologize for voting in Bush (and fiends).

I originally hadn't thought much of Clinton, but have come to truely respect the man as he stands for greater causes of mankind. I also agree with a previous made comment above (#77314) that he's the greatest President since Kennedy.

One can't argue with facts such as the US economy performing well during the Clinton years, and his approval rating being the highest since Eisenhower.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton


G - 2/23/2006

Just saying it doesn't take a person of Islam to be a terrorist - and there are dangers of painting all Islamic people with the same brush.

In my world, there is only 1 God. But you're free to believe whatever you want - and I'll try not to disrespect your beliefs. ;-)


wally - 2/23/2006

Its amazing that it seems that all of the major newspapers feel that the country has been misled. Why is it that only Sean ohannity and Michelle know the truth. I would like to know why it took Dick Cheney 14 hours to sober up. You would have thought his liver was more up to the job or possibly he had way too many cocktails? What is this with two men hunting with a woman. Where I come from this is usually up to no good. http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/022106P.shtml http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/19/literally-one-beer/
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/14/mcclellan-conceals-heart-attack/

Just look at these lies. How can they not see the truth? Cheney said it was only " a beer" when we know everyone who has been stopped by a cop answers that they had just one. Thank god that they didn't do a alcohol level then they would even have more to lie about!! Lets get real


s.h.rebinowitz - 2/22/2006

In the aftermath of the Danish cartoon fiasco, two things are abundantly clear. First, that Islam continues to be
a very dangerous and violent religion. Secondly, the hypocrisy of a majority of Muslims apparently knows no bounds.
Even those that openly agree with freedoms of speech and press are quick to condemn anyone that actually has
the audacity to excercise either. "Responsibility' and "restraint" are cautioned where the chance of offending a Muslim
may arise. We are also lectured, on both sides, to be more "tolerant" toward those of the Islamic faith.
Recently, a letter in the Boston Globe by Tariq Ramadan (" At the crossroad of Islam, the West", Feb.9,2006)
enlightened us with the following: "...Western societies, unlike muslim-majority countries, have grown accustomed to
derision, irony, and criticism of religious symbols, the Pope, Jesus Christ, and even God. Even though Muslims do
not share this attitude...". Mr. Ramadan is either delusional or simply blinded by a religion that has turned so many into
madmen, as evidenced in the last four months of violence, over a cartoon drawing.
Let us start with the fact that not only are Muslims throughout the Middle East and their Governments openly critical
of other religions, they routinely persecute those that worship outside the Islamic faith. Christians are detained, tortured,

raped, executed. Their homes are ransacked and often destroyed. In 2000, Arabs demolished Joseph's tomb, torching
the ancient shrine and murdering a rabbi who tried to save a Torah from the flames. In 2001, the Taliban destroyed
two priceless 1500 year old statues of Buddha in a wonderful example of tolerance. It is also a fact that radical Islamics
are among the most intolerant people on the planet, yet the rest of the non-Muslim world should walk on eggshells
lest we offend their thin-skinned sensibilities. Say something derogatory about Mohammed? They'll cut your head off.
Handle the Koran the wrong way? They'll cut off your hands. This is a classic example of, " Do as I say, not as I do".

Non-Islamic worshipers have endured far worse than unflattering cartoons over the years. For example, in 1989,

under the guise of "art", photographer Andres Serrano shocked and outraged many Christians with a photograph



of a crucifix submerged in urine called, "Piss Christ". Other offensive books and movies, "The last temptation of Christ",
"The passion of the Christ", and "The DaVinci Code", have upset and insulted Christians and Jews worldwide.

Were buildings burned? People killed in violent protests? Demands for the executions of the people responsible for

these blasphemies? None.Civilized people do not do such things. Unfortunately for Theo Van Gogh, he didn't





concern himself with the ramifications of insulting the Muslim world. After releasing his 10 minute movie-short,
"Submission", which criticized the treatment of Muslim women under Islam, he was brutally murdered in broad daylight.
Shot repeatedly and begging for his life, Mohammed Bouyeri proceeded to hack at Van Gogh's throat with a large knife,
nearly decapitating him. He then attached a 5 page letter of protest, with a list of prominent Dutch citizens to be murdered,
to Van Gogh's chest with the same knife. Bouyeri, in a courtroom confession, vowed to repeat this act, if given the chance.
Clutching a Koran, he stated, " The law compels me to chop off the head of anyone who insults Allah or the prophet."






Over sixteen years since he was condemned to death by Ayatollah Khomeini, with a million dollar bounty on his head,
Salman Rushdie's "Satanic Verses" still guarantees someone a healthy stipend for his death. (It was doubled in 1997,
and increased to 2.8 million in 1999 by Ayatollah Sanei.) Even the former peace-loving 70's pop idol, Cat Stevens (a.k.a.
Yusuf Islam), writer of such ballads as "Peace Train", and "Morning has broken", supported the Fatwa against Rushdie,
"...the Qur'an makes it clear, if someone defames the prophet, then he must die...". What kind of religion could convert a
person from peace,love and freedom for all, to condoning murder over written words?
Tolerance and respect are reciprocal in life. You get what you give, as it is said. Muslim leaders "worry" about
the widening chasm betweem Islam and the West. Every incident that plays itself out on the world stage, as with this
latest cartoon debacle, adds another block in the wall separating the Muslim world from the rest. You cannot threaten
people with death every time you perceive an insult to something you hold dear. The civilized world will not tolerate it.
As Muslims continue to settle in foreign lands, they are going to have to accept and live with the fact that there are people
the world over, of all races and religious denominations, that are rude, insulting, intolerant, and predisposed to stereo-
types, racial, religious or otherwise. Rational discourse and reasonable protests are acceptable means in dealing with
ignorance. If, indeed, the majority of Muslims worldwide are peace loving and tolerant, as some claim, the problem is
that the rest of the world doesn't hear you. We instead hear the bombs, the murders and the constant death threats and
chants calling for the destruction of anything non-Muslim. We hear the imams, clerics, and political leaders inciting the
populace into a maniacal rage. Because of all of these examples, violence is indelibly linked to Islam, yet Muslim leaders
can't seem to understand why their religion is disrespected around the world. We cant' hear the moderates among you,
for your silence is deafening.
If it's apologies, respect, and tolerance they want, they had better clean up their own backyard first. Only then will the wall
between these cultures begin to come down.


s.h.rebinowitz - 2/22/2006

In the aftermath of the Danish cartoon fiasco, two things are abundantly clear. First, that Islam continues to be
a very dangerous and violent religion. Secondly, the hypocrisy of a majority of Muslims apparently knows no bounds.
Even those that openly agree with freedoms of speech and press are quick to condemn anyone that actually has
the audacity to excercise either. "Responsibility' and "restraint" are cautioned where the chance of offending a Muslim
may arise. We are also lectured, on both sides, to be more "tolerant" toward those of the Islamic faith.
Recently, a letter in the Boston Globe by Tariq Ramadan (" At the crossroad of Islam, the West", Feb.9,2006)
enlightened us with the following: "...Western societies, unlike muslim-majority countries, have grown accustomed to
derision, irony, and criticism of religious symbols, the Pope, Jesus Christ, and even God. Even though Muslims do
not share this attitude...". Mr. Ramadan is either delusional or simply blinded by a religion that has turned so many into
madmen, as evidenced in the last four months of violence, over a cartoon drawing.
Let us start with the fact that not only are Muslims throughout the Middle East and their Governments openly critical
of other religions, they routinely persecute those that worship outside the Islamic faith. Christians are detained, tortured,

raped, executed. Their homes are ransacked and often destroyed. In 2000, Arabs demolished Joseph's tomb, torching
the ancient shrine and murdering a rabbi who tried to save a Torah from the flames. In 2001, the Taliban destroyed
two priceless 1500 year old statues of Buddha in a wonderful example of tolerance. It is also a fact that radical Islamics
are among the most intolerant people on the planet, yet the rest of the non-Muslim world should walk on eggshells
lest we offend their thin-skinned sensibilities. Say something derogatory about Mohammed? They'll cut your head off.
Handle the Koran the wrong way? They'll cut off your hands. This is a classic example of, " Do as I say, not as I do".

Non-Islamic worshipers have endured far worse than unflattering cartoons over the years. For example, in 1989,

under the guise of "art", photographer Andres Serrano shocked and outraged many Christians with a photograph



of a crucifix submerged in urine called, "Piss Christ". Other offensive books and movies, "The last temptation of Christ",
"The passion of the Christ", and "The DaVinci Code", have upset and insulted Christians and Jews worldwide.

Were buildings burned? People killed in violent protests? Demands for the executions of the people responsible for

these blasphemies? None.Civilized people do not do such things. Unfortunately for Theo Van Gogh, he didn't





concern himself with the ramifications of insulting the Muslim world. After releasing his 10 minute movie-short,
"Submission", which criticized the treatment of Muslim women under Islam, he was brutally murdered in broad daylight.
Shot repeatedly and begging for his life, Mohammed Bouyeri proceeded to hack at Van Gogh's throat with a large knife,
nearly decapitating him. He then attached a 5 page letter of protest, with a list of prominent Dutch citizens to be murdered,
to Van Gogh's chest with the same knife. Bouyeri, in a courtroom confession, vowed to repeat this act, if given the chance.
Clutching a Koran, he stated, " The law compels me to chop off the head of anyone who insults Allah or the prophet."






Over sixteen years since he was condemned to death by Ayatollah Khomeini, with a million dollar bounty on his head,
Salman Rushdie's "Satanic Verses" still guarantees someone a healthy stipend for his death. (It was doubled in 1997,
and increased to 2.8 million in 1999 by Ayatollah Sanei.) Even the former peace-loving 70's pop idol, Cat Stevens (a.k.a.
Yusuf Islam), writer of such ballads as "Peace Train", and "Morning has broken", supported the Fatwa against Rushdie,
"...the Qur'an makes it clear, if someone defames the prophet, then he must die...". What kind of religion could convert a
person from peace,love and freedom for all, to condoning murder over written words?
Tolerance and respect are reciprocal in life. You get what you give, as it is said. Muslim leaders "worry" about
the widening chasm betweem Islam and the West. Every incident that plays itself out on the world stage, as with this
latest cartoon debacle, adds another block in the wall separating the Muslim world from the rest. You cannot threaten
people with death every time you perceive an insult to something you hold dear. The civilized world will not tolerate it.
As Muslims continue to settle in foreign lands, they are going to have to accept and live with the fact that there are people
the world over, of all races and religious denominations, that are rude, insulting, intolerant, and predisposed to stereo-
types, racial, religious or otherwise. Rational discourse and reasonable protests are acceptable means in dealing with
ignorance. If, indeed, the majority of Muslims worldwide are peace loving and tolerant, as some claim, the problem is
that the rest of the world doesn't hear you. We instead hear the bombs, the murders and the constant death threats and
chants calling for the destruction of anything non-Muslim. We hear the imams, clerics, and political leaders inciting the
populace into a maniacal rage. Because of all of these examples, violence is indelibly linked to Islam, yet Muslim leaders
can't seem to understand why their religion is disrespected around the world. We cant' hear the moderates among you,
for your silence is deafening.
If it's apologies, respect, and tolerance they want, they had better clean up their own backyard first. Only then will the wall
between these cultures begin to come down.


s. h. rebinowitz - 2/22/2006

In the aftermath of the Danish cartoon fiasco, two things are abundantly clear. First, that Islam continues to be
a very dangerous and violent religion. Secondly, the hypocrisy of a majority of Muslims apparently knows no bounds.
Even those that openly agree with freedoms of speech and press are quick to condemn anyone that actually has
the audacity to excercise either. "Responsibility' and "restraint" are cautioned where the chance of offending a Muslim
may arise. We are also lectured, on both sides, to be more "tolerant" toward those of the Islamic faith.
Recently, a letter in the Boston Globe by Tariq Ramadan (" At the crossroad of Islam, the West", Feb.9,2006)
enlightened us with the following: "...Western societies, unlike muslim-majority countries, have grown accustomed to
derision, irony, and criticism of religious symbols, the Pope, Jesus Christ, and even God. Even though Muslims do
not share this attitude...". Mr. Ramadan is either delusional or simply blinded by a religion that has turned so many into
madmen, as evidenced in the last four months of violence, over a cartoon drawing.
Let us start with the fact that not only are Muslims throughout the Middle East and their Governments openly critical
of other religions, they routinely persecute those that worship outside the Islamic faith. Christians are detained, tortured,

raped, executed. Their homes are ransacked and often destroyed. In 2000, Arabs demolished Joseph's tomb, torching
the ancient shrine and murdering a rabbi who tried to save a Torah from the flames. In 2001, the Taliban destroyed
two priceless 1500 year old statues of Buddha in a wonderful example of tolerance. It is also a fact that radical Islamics
are among the most intolerant people on the planet, yet the rest of the non-Muslim world should walk on eggshells
lest we offend their thin-skinned sensibilities. Say something derogatory about Mohammed? They'll cut your head off.
Handle the Koran the wrong way? They'll cut off your hands. This is a classic example of, " Do as I say, not as I do".

Non-Islamic worshipers have endured far worse than unflattering cartoons over the years. For example, in 1989,

under the guise of "art", photographer Andres Serrano shocked and outraged many Christians with a photograph



of a crucifix submerged in urine called, "Piss Christ". Other offensive books and movies, "The last temptation of Christ",
"The passion of the Christ", and "The DaVinci Code", have upset and insulted Christians and Jews worldwide.

Were buildings burned? People killed in violent protests? Demands for the executions of the people responsible for

these blasphemies? None.Civilized people do not do such things. Unfortunately for Theo Van Gogh, he didn't





concern himself with the ramifications of insulting the Muslim world. After releasing his 10 minute movie-short,
"Submission", which criticized the treatment of Muslim women under Islam, he was brutally murdered in broad daylight.
Shot repeatedly and begging for his life, Mohammed Bouyeri proceeded to hack at Van Gogh's throat with a large knife,
nearly decapitating him. He then attached a 5 page letter of protest, with a list of prominent Dutch citizens to be murdered,
to Van Gogh's chest with the same knife. Bouyeri, in a courtroom confession, vowed to repeat this act, if given the chance.
Clutching a Koran, he stated, " The law compels me to chop off the head of anyone who insults Allah or the prophet."






Over sixteen years since he was condemned to death by Ayatollah Khomeini, with a million dollar bounty on his head,
Salman Rushdie's "Satanic Verses" still guarantees someone a healthy stipend for his death. (It was doubled in 1997,
and increased to 2.8 million in 1999 by Ayatollah Sanei.) Even the former peace-loving 70's pop idol, Cat Stevens (a.k.a.
Yusuf Islam), writer of such ballads as "Peace Train", and "Morning has broken", supported the Fatwa against Rushdie,
"...the Qur'an makes it clear, if someone defames the prophet, then he must die...". What kind of religion could convert a
person from peace,love and freedom for all, to condoning murder over written words?
Tolerance and respect are reciprocal in life. You get what you give, as it is said. Muslim leaders "worry" about
the widening chasm betweem Islam and the West. Every incident that plays itself out on the world stage, as with this
latest cartoon debacle, adds another block in the wall separating the Muslim world from the rest. You cannot threaten
people with death every time you perceive an insult to something you hold dear. The civilized world will not tolerate it.
As Muslims continue to settle in foreign lands, they are going to have to accept and live with the fact that there are people
the world over, of all races and religious denominations, that are rude, insulting, intolerant, and predisposed to stereo-
types, racial, religious or otherwise. Rational discourse and reasonable protests are acceptable means in dealing with
ignorance. If, indeed, the majority of Muslims worldwide are peace loving and tolerant, as some claim, the problem is
that the rest of the world doesn't hear you. We instead hear the bombs, the murders and the constant death threats and
chants calling for the destruction of anything non-Muslim. We hear the imams, clerics, and political leaders inciting the
populace into a maniacal rage. Because of all of these examples, violence is indelibly linked to Islam, yet Muslim leaders
can't seem to understand why their religion is disrespected around the world. We cant' hear the moderates among you,
for your silence is deafening.
If it's apologies, respect, and tolerance they want, they had better clean up their own backyard first. Only then will the wall
between these cultures begin to come down.


Henrik Hornstrup - 2/22/2006

well sorry G, but its not that easy to show respect for a religion in Which name I on a daily bacis can see people on my TV shouting "death to all danes, behead all danes, burn all danes" (I'm a dane). Or a religion that says its ok to blow up innocent childeren. Or a religion saying "show no mercy to your enemies".
Where I'm coming from respect is something you have to deserve before having, its not something you will get just because of a formal position of yours.

So let me ask you, do you show respect to Zeus (old greek god) or to Odin (old Nordic god), and if not, why not, and if you do, how do you do that if you dont know theirs taboos???

I cant see why I have to know about the rules in every an other religions just to use my right to free speech....


G - 2/22/2006

Hypocritical - no.

Human - yes.

At least Liberals have both hearts and brains.


G - 2/22/2006

AnAmerican - Perhaps you should go back to your room and play with your Lego... Leave the discussion to the grown-ups that understand more what at stake than you and your X-Files DVD set.

Clinton is a man of reason, and shows respect - which is far greater than your hatred and sub-par intelligence.


G - 2/22/2006

Islam is a religion that should be respected just as you would Christianity, Buddism, etc. You seem to be very confused that "Islamic" somehow means "Terrorist". Please Reply if/when your intelligence has gone up.


G - 2/22/2006

Clinton cheated, and frankly who cares. His reputation was slightly damaged over his libido, but no one died over it.

The issue is dead - much like some of the Americans and a couple other countries soldiers that went to fight this false war...

Kudos in reference to #77574 as Bush is the biggest liar.


G - 2/22/2006

At least Clinton isn't a war criminal like Bush.


G - 2/22/2006

Lady - your comment showed neither respect nor intelligence.


Canuck - 2/22/2006

Clinton is a brillant man - and he clearly understands that there needs to be some respect shown for other people and their religions.

Sadly, many brain washed Americans don't seem to understand this - with only the falsical "war on terror" on their minds as continually hyped by Fox and the pro-Right (=wrong). Americans need to drop the arrogance and gain some understanding of how they're seen by the rest of the world, or they'll simply remain the bully in the school yard. They should concentrate on fixing their own problems within their country before causing problems outside of it.


rdubost - 2/21/2006

OMG !!

We have a pretty docile recipient for official propaganda here :) Do you really believe a single word among that fox-garbage ?

Stop watching tv shows : this terror threat is in your mind only (apart from last season of 24 or Alias).

Red necks will never grow : they will shoot you or hit you in the face and then turn to their mom claiming they are the good guys. Dude, you sound like a nazi and you probably ain't worth much more.
But plz, don't let me interupt your TV show: how's the beer and pizza ?

Decadent barbarian.
Roger


rdubost - 2/21/2006

<<excuse me but did you forget something 911/ all those people were just going to their jobs, when some evil satanic madman with no mercy no heart no morals no love and no GOD, decided to>>

Well dude, no one has ever shown any proof of that.

In the meantime, most of us have seen PROOF that these events have little to do with muslims and A LOT to do with the need to declare a war, to secure oil reserves, to threaten american people with some sort of martial law etc etc.

So of course, since you ask, we will excuse you, but YOU are the one forgetting something: you forget to open your eyes.


George - 2/20/2006

you sound like a moron


Lady - 2/20/2006

Listen, I don't believe in your Muhammad, and you cant tell me to do what I want to inside this free europe! Until you have a woman-imam heading national sermons in Saudi Arabia - shut up!


Troy - 2/20/2006

All of you are forgetting that Jesus Christ is going to return soon and this is just the set up for the great ribulation spoken of in Revelation. I pray that all of you that don't know im as your personal savior come to know his grace, peace and love that he has for you. If you don't come to know it before you pass or he returns then may he have mercy on your soul. Neither side is right, you need to look for the answers in the bible. Because that is the on truth left a mist all the corruption and lies of politicans. May god bless you all with the fruit of his Holy Spirit.


james - 2/20/2006

imam you have to realise that all christians will not violentlly demonstrate and casuse the deaths of more christians if jesus was made fun of in a cartoon the reason is we believe our holy jesus has enormous eternal powers to deal with those who wish worse for him. so instead of taking revenge ourselves as moslems have done we would rather have jesus's own powers take care of its self. what is making the actions of makority moslems deplorable is not the fact that a few radicals are draging islam through the mud its the shocking silence and almost complacent attitude of the majority of moslems to stand by and not do anything evil you have to realise florishes only when good people do nothing so i challenge you and all moderate moslems who cliam islam is peaceful to demonstrate in deed . when martin luther spoke against the catholic church he was ex-communicated not murdered how can you possiblly convince anyone that islam is peaceful as long as critics like rushdy live in fear constantlly for their life should'nt he be free if islam is that peaceful afterall he has appologised to all who were offended. if more and more critcs live with death the whole world would eventually be living in fear is that what you want others to associate islam with.on the other hand i will challenge you to draw a similar cartoon of jesus christ and see what happens if christians will put a death threat on you for the rest of your life.the main reason why we christians believe jesus christ should revenge his own enemies is the same reasons that we don't want to take the laws into our own hands we are law abiding people who believe in jesus christ and GOD you will become a murderer if you kill any one for whatever reason you have so the chain of violent reaction stops right there.the israelies did not go on rampage when the iranian leader advocated that they be wiped out from the face of the earth don't you think that is a serious stuff to say . there is even no fatua on the iranian leader so is all the antisemitism utterances and pictures by other moslems who believe all jews and any unbeliever of the moslem faith must die or be killed just for being unbeliver and surprisinglly the physically carry out that threat what if christians belive and kill all unbelivers of the christian faith can you imagine the level of chaos in the world. it will simplly be un imaginable so i challenge you to be the imam who will infuse a new way of thinking into your fellow moslems and see what happens.


jeb bush - 2/18/2006

this is absolutely the most ridiculous thing i've ever come across on the internet. i'm going back to my kiddie porn...at least it's interesting...


Dean - 2/18/2006


Although we foolishly elected this man twice, the world shouldn't be as dumb as to think he has anything of value for it. Afterall, he played around for eight years as the world drifted into chaos. Now a extremely, vocal minority shout hate at the leaders attempting to fix his failures. Bill Clinton's words are just words -- a waste of time. My sincere apology.


- 2/17/2006

excuse me but did you forget something 911/ all those people were just going to their jobs, when some evil satanic madman with no mercy no heart no morals no love and no GOD, decided to plow our own planes into the trade centers. What kind of relgion is this but pure satantic cursed evil and demonic straight from hell. And that is where all radical murderous,evil muslims will end up and there will be no virgins there either only fire and thirst.


jeanne - 2/17/2006

Amen to that!


jeanne meadows - 2/17/2006

Peace, my liberal friend, is not the absence of war but the absence of injustice. I believe when this is all over with you liberals will eat your words.There has just been a video submitted in Sadams' trial of him, planning with his thugs, to obtain weapons of mass destruction and use it on the USA. Now after what happened in NY NY (or did you forget 9/11, there was a terrorist attack on the trade centers back in 01) we know that if they really want to do harm to us they do not need weapons of mass destruction, just a few planes(or busses or traines or a virus) and some mad men willing to kill themselves. We will NEVER NEVER understand their way of thinking, it is not in us. But, we had better watch, listen and act now before it is to late. The worse of all evils is for good men to do nothing.


salla - 2/15/2006

Cartoons were Offensive. IF cartoonist could continue stay with his job in that company means not only cartoonist faulty a whole understanding of a nation guilty. Secondly Muslims believe Abraham, Moses and Jesus were past prophets before Muhammad. Therefore they can not against or rude to this reality. If so they`ll be exported from Islam. After that guilt they`ll be no muslim anymore. That is the rule of Islam. We are not disrespect to other religions. Thirdly if Jesus was drawed same way in a cartoon whereever in the world, I`m sure all Europe was filling the streets demanding apology. Think again Mel Gibson storied what Jews people did to Jesus when he was alive. He story all the reality but after that some of christians and whole Jews protest the movie. You think muslims do not have the right of defence? Moreover infront of a journalism understanding like they can swear to whoever`s honor or respect and they do not need to pay any. No Limitless journalism. Yes to Limitless researcher journalism that brings the fact from behind all stealth doors. Building nations work of care, share and respect to each other. Don`t forget that!


Karen - 2/14/2006

Iman Al-Sallal -
Funny, because the media HAVE published cartoons defaming Jesus and Moses and Mary and Joseph and anyone else in my belief system. Have I started a war? No. Have I bombed anything? No. It's amazing to me that Christians say they are peaceful and forgiving, then they are slighted and they remain peaceful and forgiving. Yet, certiain extremist Muslims say they are peaceful and forgiving until they are slighted or someone has a different belief. Then they should have an "unmerciful punishment"?! Really? That doesn't sound like mercy or forgiveness to me at all. It's all fun and games until someone draws something on a piece of paper. Be better than that. Don't let someone else dictate your actions. If you say you truly respect other religions, then you should actually follow through and respect them.


Marc - 2/14/2006

Clinton is most definately synonomous with SHAME. Here is just one example. The Armenian Genocide Bill (that acknowledges there was systematic Genocide of more than a million Armenians at the hands of Turkey in 1915) was about to be made a law until Clinton stepped in at the last minute and vetoed it because Turkey threatened U.S. that there will be consequences.
Cinton, as one of the greatest presidents ever??? SHAME, SHAME, SHAME....


iu - 2/14/2006

Well - I can tell you a lot of eurpopean executives have been paying for his lifestyle - but not anymore... you dont invite Mugabe either, do you?


Bus - 2/14/2006

If someone suggests that Muhammad has something to do with terror - why then, go out and burn, beat up, and threat people with beheading: didn't you just prove the cartoons point there?

Do your religion contain the notion of logic?


Sgt Darryl Mink - 2/14/2006

AL M
It is clear you are a devout liberal, allow me to enlighten you.War is ugly and mistakes will always be made but because the public changes their minds on the war, does not mean cease all action. It is very important to follow through not out of stuburness but wisdom, changing goals/ direction but finishing what was started. if you haven't notice a mass murderer has been taken out and thousands of lives saved. People such as the media, yourself and all the other liberals need to have a coke and a smile and shut the F up and let the GOV take care of the POS'S accordingly.


Sgt Darryl Mink - 2/14/2006

Clinton is a prime example of liberal with out a clue. He attacks issues only to gain attention. The real issues, he remains on the fench until he sees where the majarity is headed then jumps off until it is no longer popular to be there then jumps back on the fench. This is a practice used by most liberals, because they like to run there mouths, but have no backbone to stand for anything, thus creating weakness, confusing and stupidity.


eric - 2/13/2006

i agree that there should be respect for religious beliefs, but why should the Islamic people not respect the beliefs of others? Why should other countries, like Denmark, be forced to adopt the principles of another nation?
Ok, the cartoons were offensive and you are right in saying that not enough thought was put into the idea. You say that they "should've considered the severe consequences". i don't think the Danes considered all Muslims to be terrorists - which is how many are behaving.
Why punish a whole nation for a few peoples mistakes?


Dessy - 2/12/2006

To me, freedom of speech is good, but if it conflics with religious aspects I think it should be forbidden. Islam forbids showing pictures or images of Prophet Muhammad in any form. The Denmark newspaper should've considered the severe consequences before publishing those pictures! Not only did the newspaper publish the pictures of Prophet Muhammade, but those pictures are also offensive!!! I wouldn't be surprised if rage among the muslims are exploding everywhere right now.


Al M - 2/12/2006

I am totally disgusted at the level of reaction that these cartoons have caused, but Denmark is not without blame.
Historically, there have other instances when it was demonstrated that the extremist muslims would react this way when they felt that the muslim religion or its historical eader were being mocked. In this case, it is known that muslims don't tolerate idolatry and would take extreme measures to proove their belief. Denmark has no right to hide behind freedom of speech under such scenarios when there are other examples (salman rushdie)that prove this extremist behavior.

I think in this case the reactions are somewhat overblown but when dealing with extremism then this is the reaction that normally results. Again why anyone wants to feed this behavior is beyond me especially with recent events post 9/11.


Al M - 2/12/2006

I rather have clinton as a president than that imposter who claims to be the president.

I guess a president that has a spine has the following qualities:

A. Leads us to War based on lies
B. Plans a war even before being elected
C. consult congress about entering war was just BS - the plans were well underway
D. Spies on its own citizen and claims it's justified
E. Leads us further into national debt
F. causes a greater divide politically in the world.
G. Is responsible for loss of innocent lives on both sides of the war.
H. has left us in no better position in the war on terror.
I. Has left us in worse shape domestically.
J. Scares its citizens on claims of thwarting yet another terrorist plan on us soil with no proof.
K. This administration rules on fear and questions patriotism when someone has a counter opinion.

This is what all the founding fathers envisioned.

It's really a shame that a person like BUSH will be compared to all those great presidents before him. He lessens the office of the president... really a shame.

I guess all of these are the quality of a good commander in chief.


Thomas - 2/12/2006

Hi Sahar

I totally agree, that Clinton was one of the greatest presidents, but his comment to the Muhammed case is totally wrong.
I am a Dane and i think it is just as disrespectfull to burn my flag as it is to draw a picture of the profet Muhammed. When does it stop - when does the insanity within Islam stops?? Is it ok that Salman Rushdie had to live with a fatwa for more than 12 years because he wrote a book that critisies Islam. Was it ok that Theo Van Gogh was killed because he made the film Submission?? Is it ok that some Muslims want to kill Ayaan Hirsi Ali because she told the story of her life and how it is to live as a muslim woman. The muslims talk about respect for their culture and their religion but at the same time resent and disrespects our way of living. The democratic way of living and the freedom of speech, should always stand above, all religions!


Al M - 2/12/2006

Why should Clinton make a speech about an isolated incident like a man being sent to jail in china BUT not make a statement about an world changing incident as large as these cartoons.
Again, this is nothing but the right wing going after clinton over another remark or non-remark. It's amazing how this president still gets blamed over everything even after being out of office for 5 years. Does Judith Apter Klinghoffer have any evidence about who is paying for Clinton's lifestyle. I think not! She should really be asking "who is paying for the Bush family lifestyle and wealth?" Our current administration (BUSH) doesn't stand up to China (N.Korea and their "NUCULAR" Weapons) or Saudi Arabia (9/11 and Oil) so why does Clinton need to make statement about how china treated this ONE person. Judith Apter Klingoffer should think long before opening up her trap!

It's Judith who has no shame or knows the meaning of the word.


Al M - 2/12/2006

Why should Clinton make a speech about an isolated incident like a man being sent to jail in china BUT not make a statement about an world changing incident as large as these cartoons.
Again, this is nothing but the right wing going after clinton over another remark or non-remark. It's amazing how this president still gets blamed over everything even after being out of office for 5 years. Does Judith Apter Klinghoffer have any evidence about who is paying for Clinton's lifestyle. I think not! She should really be asking "who is paying for the Bush family lifestyle and wealth?" Our current administration (BUSH) doesn't stand up to China (N.Korea and their "NUCULAR" Weapons) or Saudi Arabia (9/11 and Oil) so why does Clinton need to make statement about how china treated this ONE person. Judith Apter Klingoffer should think long before opening up her trap!

It's Judith who has no shame or knows the meaning of the word.


Iman - 2/12/2006

I totally agree with sahar.
Suicide bombers: what about all the innocent people that have been killed over the past 60 years in Palestine?..and now Iraq, what about those innocent people? what did they do? And if you are calling these "Islamic Extremests" cowardly bombers...why dont you first take a look at how the Israeli's slay the Palestenians with their huge tanks and machine guns while the Palestenians fight back with a couple of stones in their hand. And when the war started in Iraq, the Americans were just bombing the country way up high from their planes and weren't brave enough to get down there and fight. This is what I call "cowardly killing innocent people from underneath their hiding places- slithering back into their holes like an evil snake".


Scott W - 2/12/2006

if you want a war as badly as i think you do, then sign up to the army and get going! it's amusing how you sit there at your computer saying how you must fight, but you won't do it yourself


Scott W - 2/12/2006

i do believe tony blair said it best: "al quaeda have demands. it's just that no sane person would ever negotiate them" their demands include the removal of troops from ALL muslim countries, even those that approve of their presence. then to allow the setting up of taliban states in these countries. is this reasonable? well, look at the reactions of the liberated iraqi people to see if it is reasonable. do we put them back under the control of extremist scum? i have no problem with islam or its beliefs, but i have a serious problem with dictatorship regimes that take part in the torture of their own people for no reason other than their own pleasure. to say that we succumb to terrorist demands is to say that we should have allowed hitler to invade britain, and that we should have let the IRA negotiate with us. did we? no, because it was unreasonable. it is now unreasonable to listen to the hate speech of madmen, bent on world domination (no different to hitler and his nazi regime).


mark harris - 2/10/2006

The intolerance the Islamic extremists show with their barbaric killing, stems from a mind not quite developed enough to comprehend any 'belief' but their own.. couple this narrow-mindedness with endless teachings (from birth) that everyone who believes differently than themselves are evil-- and ironically, you get pure evil. Which is what these animals are (the Islamic Extremests). They haven't the mentality to even attempt to understand another's beleif system, so there is no point in arguing with such ignorance-- they are lost in their own pile of garbage and are evidently content on forever using their stupid 'belief system' as an excuse to vent their hatred, jealosy and uncontrolled anger by cowardly bombing innocent people from underneath their hiding places (cowards always hide- then and only then strike- slithering back into their holes like an evil snake).
Waht is left to do with these cowardly and close-minded animals? Strike first before they are given yet another chance to lift their numb heads from underneath their latest hiding place. Oh yes, we are already doing that. More power to those of us "open-minded" enough to realize that this 'strike first' approach is, thus far, our only alternative in effectively dealing with such ignorant and small-minded people. Amen.


- 2/10/2006

Reply #78614 (mark harris) was meant for Jane and Joe (with whom I disagree-- I agree with you)... I think u and I clearly agree on things.... I just logged on for the 1st time today and I think I left the reply- to you- by mistake... and THANK YOU for serving in Vietnam.
Mark Harris


mark harris - 2/10/2006

Hi jane... please read my reply #78614. I think perhaps you may be enlightened (or enraged judging by your reply to JoeM) and come away a more "open-minded" person. We can only hope so anyway.


- 2/10/2006

Sahar,

In now way can those pictures be considered violating someone's right.
We have as a people become so tolerant, we now tolerate and make excuses for the intolerant, and feel guilty for it.

I am here to tell you and others of your ilk, that not all Americans believe that ANY religion speaks the truth, but to act in the manner of the Muslims IS criminal.

Clearly you are well on the left. Tolerance is only tolerance when it is used with discretion.
All in America and around the world now border on appeasement.

A reasonable person view of what is disrespectful. The pictures should provoke thought.
Thought that Mohammad word and the people he gave it to are showing a face of Islam to the world of barbarity, brutality and complete intolerance.
The world of Islam has created that. That Mohammad (or his likeness) s the icon of that is reflected in the pictures, and then of course the Muslims acted with what, tolerance, understanding, or barbarity?

Your actions again show what you are as a people, and you make excuses for them. Do you not understand that Islam is becoming synonymous with terrorism? Because your mainstream clerics do not adamantly condemn it. Because your own “peace loving” people support, hide, and finance the “fanatics”

At what point does this religion stop have a fanatical wing, and it itself is fanatical.

Please show me where Islam has been tolerant. When? Where? Ever?


mark harris - 2/10/2006

It's not hard to look at the 'big picture' if one is so inclined. saddam hussein is a Killer of innocent women, children and men... so "frankly my dear, I don't give a damn" if Bush or anyone else lied to go over there and destry hussein's little killing party-- the entire world is better for it.. and that is just part of the 'big picture'.
please note: 99% of all "Liberals" have a mentality of "adolescence never grown up", somehow long ago stunted and stuck in an idealistic mindset of fantasy and 'rose-colored glasses', contradictory lifestyle that proports to "care" so much for the human lives of others, yet so ready to kill a child before it even has a chance to see the light of day (read: unborn)... and on that note: a woman's body is solely her own until she gets pregnant, at which time it becomes the body of two-- not just one selfish, whiney and irresponsible woman. Do I seem to be "all over the place"? Not if you take just a brief moment to 'see' the common thread running throughout all the "adolescents-never-grown-up" liberals in the world.
Now if you choose to reply, I will expect you to digress into the "hateful" "name-calling" which liberals also continually contradict themselves on-- always the first to do that.


Sahar - 2/10/2006

I want to start off by telling everyone a joke. Once there was a Man who was walking with a knife in his hand (pointing out in front of him). He kept walking like this until the knife's tip ended up touching another man's nose. At this, the 2nd man said: "Excuse me but your knife is touching my nose". The Man with the knife replied: "Well I am a free man and it is my right to walk like this." Finally, the 2nd man replied: "Yes, but your freedom ends where my nose starts". Although it's a joke, the message I am trying to get across is this: If our rights are hurting someone else's beliefs (especially religious beliefs) then is it not disrespectful of us to encourage these cartoons? By discouraging them, or the people that created them, we are not losing our freedom of speech. We are just be respectful and concerned about others. It is the same as not cursing in front of our parents. We don't lose our freedom of speech by doing so, we just show respect to them, while exercising our freedom in some other way. As far as the Suicide Bombers are concerned, let's take a look at both sides of the story before forming an opinion. The media has been very bias recently. I am not defending the bombers, all I am saying is to first why they are doing what they're doing. No sane person will just blow themselves up. There is a reason behind everything. So why don't we find out the politics of this issue first. As far as Bill Clinton is concerened, he was a great President. One of the greatest I believe. If we are to put shame on anyone it should be President Bush, for taking our country to war without any evidence. SHAME ON BUSH. And as far as the title of this e-mail is concerned, it should really be Bush vs. free speech. And I think we all know why.


mark harris - 2/10/2006

Self-centered Bill Clinton, while highly intelligent- has no ethical code, has no wisdom- which any true leader should possess. Give me a man/woman who puts wisdom above mere 'cleverness' and/or 'book smarts' any day.
And by the way, George Bush has both intelligence and wisdom. Can you show the GPA President Bush can show? Doubtful.


D - 2/10/2006

Dear Iman Al-Sallal,

That actions of your brethren, whom you say, respect other religions. You show this respect by killing, imprisoning, and beating Danes who did not even create the cartoons.

Your actions tell the world what you are, for your words are not! You are an intolerant and violent people bent on the destruction of that that disagree with you.

Here is the key: It is not for you or your brethren to avenge these cartoons. All of you act as those you exist in Mohammad's mind, and knows what he thinks.

I think he would be ashamed of you all.


- 2/10/2006

It is hard to let the post of Iman Al-Sallal pass without refutation.

Your concerns are "threatened, respect, esteem, harsh, humiliated, disrespect". When a Palestinian cleric, from the pulpit, says suicide murderers will be rewarded with 70 virgins, that is not just disrespectful, it is obscene. That muslim nations, clerics, and individuals do not condemn such speech insults Islam more than any cartoon could.


Iman Al-Sallal - 2/10/2006

how would u feel if someone threatened Jesus or Moses the same way u have threatened our prophet Muhammad...u would make the biggest issue out of it..maybe u would even start a war.....us muslims would never do such a thing because we respect the other 2 religions and most definitely respect and believe in Jesus and Moses, whereas u ppl do not show a speck of esteem towards our beloved prophet muhammad who was by the way never harsh or cool in his behavior. Neither he humiliated anyone nor did he himself like to be treated with disrespect. He used to say, "The best among you are those who have the best character."..but it is obvious from these immature actions that your characters are very low. In our Holy Quran we have a verse that states: "and those who harm Allah's prophet Muhammad shall receive an unmerciful punishment"


Don Miles - 2/10/2006

Yes. Exactly! Unfortunately only something experienced directly seems to prompt a change in thinking. Look back over the years and the guy is just being consistent. But it always feels different when it is directed closer to home.


ibarefoot - 2/9/2006

about time somebody mentioned this, if you don't know about it-- google it.


india - 2/9/2006

well clinton once refused to shake hands with musharaff the military dictator when he visited pakistan.

what do you say about that ?


indian - 2/9/2006

clinton is a great leader. i wouldnt judge him on this. but everyman has a weakness .


G - 2/9/2006

Do you think that anytime one offends a certain group, you need to offer an "apoloy". With the free press, you will always offend someone, just as you have with your characterization of the President as the greatest threat to democracy. Perhaps an apology is now in order to republicans?


G - 2/9/2006

Being displeased with Clinton does not make one a "right wing fanatic". Of course, many like you think it is all about republican or democrat, right or left, so it is difficult to think in any other way, especially when much of how you think is shaped by the popular media which makes almost any issue as a contest between the established political machines. On the cartoon offending muslims: big deal, that's what happends when you get a free press -- everyone will find something offensive. About educating oneself: typical argument of the ignorant -- if someone does not agree with you, they must be undecuated. About Canadian "diversity": the U.S. is much more diverse than Canada, that is a fact. Please, enough of the left vs right, I am more educated thing, I live in a better country stuff. If you really had something to say, you wouldn't need all that tiresome fluff.


R. Coburn - 2/9/2006

You people are sooo funny. The prime minister, the newspaper and almost everybody else in Denmark has been apologizing for offending the muslim people for these cartoons. And in case you didn't realize Clinton is saying the same things your "God", President Bush has been saying. So after you get done backsliding, get your facts straight then get a life.


- 2/8/2006

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aalar - 2/8/2006

Lou, at least be consistent, first you complain that none of our presidents have a spine, then bash one that does. Dane's shouldn't be targeted for expressing their opniions, in their own contry for crying out loud, with GUNS yet! And Scootie President Bush ISN'T wire tapping people who are against the war, but ones that are in regular contact with known terrorist, you know the ones that BLOW PEOPLE UP? Like the Twin Towers, the U.N. underground parking garage, the subway in France, train in Japan?? Any of these ring a bell with you? Or don't you care about the people from all countries that are suffering and dying because of these Islamic maniacs?


aalar - 2/8/2006

Why does everything turn into a anti Clinton/Bush argument????


aalar - 2/8/2006

Oh I get it, it's stealing if the majority disagree with what you feel you want, so it's not free speach since it disagrees with what you feel. Got cha....


- 2/8/2006

Yep, sensless war, nevermind the tens of thousands that they have murdered with bombings, and appeasment doesn't work, just ask France and Germany.


aalar - 2/8/2006

That would take basing decisions on the facts as known at the time, not how you "feel" things should be. If it doesn't hurt her "feelings" ie: some of her family dead because of these maniacs then it's wrong, wrong,wrong. But hurt her "feelings" and that becomes her facts and she'll want rivers of blood to stop her hurt. They never change, been that way for over 60 years, feel vs facts.


aalar - 2/8/2006

Lou, at least be consistent, first you complain that none of our presidents have a spine, then bash one that does. Dane's shouldn't be targeted for expressing their opniions, in their own contry for crying out loud, with GUNS yet! And Scootie President Bush ISN'T wire tapping people who are against the war, but ones that are in regular contact with known terrorist, you know the ones that BLOW PEOPLE UP? Like the Twin Towers, the U.N. underground parking garage, the subway in France, train in Japan?? Any of these ring a bell with you? Or don't you care about the people from all countries that are suffering and dying because of these Islamic maniacs?


D.Michael - 2/8/2006

Of course Clinton has the right to free speech and to say what he wants. And everyone here has the right to criticize what he said and say shame on him.

In other words, you're as big a hypocrite as you're claiming Clinton's detractors are.

D.Michael


Lou - 2/8/2006

Nice comments Javier & Denise...I agree completly. Although Don has a point about "The Koran quite boldly instructs for infidels to be wiped out, quite violently"...which is true.


- 2/8/2006

Wow, you really are a lemming. How many sensless wars did Clinton start? who was it again to has sent tour country into trillions of dollars in dept?...Oh, the moral fellow Bush? I would rather have my President gets an adulterous Blow job than kill thousands of humans...figure it out dumb ass! Blow job vs. murder?


- 2/8/2006

Wow, you really are a lemming. How many sensless wars did Clinton start? who was it again to has sent tour country into trillions of dollars in dept?...Oh, the moral fellow Bush? I would rather have my President gets an adulterous Blow job than kill thousands of humans...figure it out dumb ass! Blow job vs. murder?


Lou - 2/8/2006

I agree, I must have stubled into the idiot zone. Clinton has more brains in the head of his cock than most of the ignorant narrow minded posters here!


Lou - 2/8/2006

Support FREEDOM of SPEECH, Support DENMARK! Hell yeah! Bash a person (Clinton) for pointing out our own prejudice, Hell no! K, you obviously are a fundemental Christian with your "Hell" comment, the world is what you make it...take a look at yourself before throwing stones.


Lou - 2/8/2006

Clinton wasn't even saying anything about repressing free speech or saying anything about being AGAINST the Danish, read the whole speech. You'll see that his point is to not antagonize the jack a** radicals, that we all know are looking for a reason to freak out. Get to the bottom line...how many people have died or been injured for a f**king cartoon?


Lou - 2/8/2006

I agree with Scootie, heaven forbid Clinton choose his battles and opinions for himself...and that poor war mongering Bush and all of his lemmings getting offended...where's the free speech there? What about the hypocrite "Cristian" Bush who kills (in war) at will?


Lou - 2/8/2006

I guess its ok to repress Clintons right to free spech as well? Is he not entitled to an opinion whatever that may be? I suppose only the rightous have a right to express their opinion..."Shame on him"...give me a break!


- 2/7/2006

we should not be surprised that the zipper rat (bill clinton)is on the side of islam he's trying to get his 77 hookers I mean virgins


JKR - 2/7/2006

So what you are saying is don't stir up the hornets nest? Don't bother them and they won't bother us? Gee, then I guess that 9/11 never happened? So let's just sit back, keep our mouths (eyes and minds) shut and these terrorist extremists will all go away, right? And who all do you think are behind these extremist idiots? If anyone doesn't realize (or won't admit) by now that guys like Saddam were and are behind them, then someone really isn't keeping their eyes (or minds) very open to the facts of what has been going on. I prefer not fighting a war but if takes us going after them to deter them from attacking us (or at least severely limiting the possibility), then so be it.


Paul - 2/7/2006

OK Francis. You clowns are all alike. Pick on petty crap and stand tall for the freedom of speech, unless it finds disagreement with YOU. Petty. Real petty.
I gave all of my respect for the Clinton Admin during his term in office. But it would be scary as hell to see the other president clinton re-elected. Mr. Clintons penis and it's hiding places have become public knowledge. Argue against facts with lame diatribes constructed of rumour, inference and innuendo is the pervue of a very weak mind with a large ego. It's not all about you, it's about all of us.


Jane - 2/7/2006

JoeM...You are a complete fool if you think we went to war to save AMERICAN LIVES. Iraq was not attacking us!!! Bin Laden and his extremists were...and where is he today? Hear Bushy boy talking about the hunt to find him anymore? And even if we found and killed Bin Laden, there are thousands more where he came from. We are NEVER safe from terrorists - when they want to attack, they will attack regardless of the supposed 'security measures' the Bushy administration has implemented.
My father is a Vietnam Vet as well. And he will tell you THIS war, like Vietnam was a farse! WE should not have been there in the 60's, and we should not be in Iraq now. I DO disagree with NOT supporting our troops. After all, they were not the ones who asked to go there in the first place. They were ordered to go under false pretenses.
And - as far as these cartoons and Clinton goes...you'll jump on this man's back no matter what. Who cares if he fooled around on his wife? It didn't affect my life any or anyone else's here in America. All he is saying is to have RESPECT for other cultures, other religions...to think about what you are putting into print and how you will hurt or insult others. Denmark, like most of the world, does not have an inkling as to how the Muslim world thinks. They are very different and do not have the Western humor that we have. They take their 'god' seriously. If they had drawn cartoons of Jesus Christ in the same light, you'd certainly be hearing it and demanding justice be done by Robertson, Reed, and all the Religious Right extremists right here in our own country.
It is not called censorship - granted, anyone can print anything. It is simply RESPECT for others and to realize not everyone is like YOU before you go to the press.


JoeM - 2/7/2006

I think you will need to get your story straight. The reason we went to war was to save lives in THIS COUNTRY and not have those people come here and attack the people in our own country, the United States. I am a Vietnam Vet and the press is doing the exact same thing they did in the late 60's and early 70's and that is they (the press) wrote what ever they wanted to get their agenda across about the war. There was never, or hardly, any good mentioned in the press or TV of what was going on regarding the war's progress, just negative press. Does this sound familiar?
Just thought I'd add my 2cents worth.


fdgh - 2/7/2006

Well - that just changed - the US is 100% behind its old ally, telling thew muslim world to get some perspective criticising cartoons, that they themselves use so often in anti-jew propaganda!


Andrew - 2/7/2006

The funny thing is that Clinton is the same man he was back when you respected him. Only now does the world (civilised; i.e. free-speech loving) begin to see his true colors as a man and as a US President.


Andrew - 2/7/2006

As per usual-- a Bush-basher skirting an issue and turning it back to Bush-bashing. Just make a stance! And make it for or against something other than 'I hate Bush.'


arrScott - 2/7/2006

But what does our actual president have to say about all of this?

White House statement: "We find them offensive, and we certainly understand why Muslims would find these images offensive."

State Department statement: "Anti-Muslim images are as unacceptable as anti-Semitic images, as anti-Christian images, or any other religious belief."

Yeah, real profiles in courage there. Good thing our actual president is defending freedom of speech and of the press and not siding with the Islamofascists in denouncing the cartoons or equating them with past European and current Arab anti-Semitism.

Oh, wait. Never mind.


johnh - 2/7/2006

Most folks in the U.S. don't like Clinton. It is about time other countries found about the true (Slick Willy)Bill. His Mantra is Hoorah for me and f--- you.


scootie - 2/7/2006

its funny that people are not concentrating on the liberties that bush has and will continue to take away. talk about free speach. wire tapping people who protest the war, now thats DEMECRACY, aye?

people who support bush continue to worry about every other countries rights but not our own. thats just brilliant.


joel - 2/7/2006

This is funny but a little sad , we've an idiot in the White House (more than one) but it is still Clintons fault , I heard that he was piloting one of them there planes on 9/11 , and the Lewinski girl I heard it was rape. Our president is using the Bill of Rights for Toilet Paper but Clinton bashers will not stop , I heard he is for Gay marriege and letting dogs marry cats , we must stop this private citizen


Don'tBelieveItTilUCIt - 2/7/2006

<< The Islamic people I have met and have asked about the religion have told me the Koran teaches never hurting anyone with more than a pillow. >>

Ask to borrow one and read it for yourself.

Either the person who told you this was totaly ignorant of the full text, never had access to it, never bothered to read it, or was flat out lying.

The Koran quite boldly instructs for infidels to be wiped out, quite violently.

Hmmm... rather like the threats that have been made would suggest.

I have a Koran available and have read some of it's 'peaceful' content. Have you?


alex - 2/6/2006

clinton rules your fucking asses


john - 2/6/2006

Clinton has never had a spine.
Most of our Presidents here in the US have never measured up to the standards our founding fathers had hoped for.


Joe - 2/6/2006

Yes, lying to start a war where 2000+ americans get killed is much better. Get your priorities straight idiot.

Joe


Nymphe - 2/6/2006

Piss Christ.

Damn liberal hypocrites...


lala - 2/5/2006

aaaha... as opposed to the recent president, who's basically a clueless twithead?


Francis - 2/5/2006

Yeah, Paul, it would be terrible to do anything twice, like posting the same, lame diatribes about PRESIDENT Clinton's (have a lttle respect for the office, right? I didn't vote for Bush, but 50 years from now he will still be President Bush) penis and cluttering up a message board or...hm!...maybe having another politician steal two different elections. See? We all have our opinions.

Clinton is talking about tolerance. And I am sure he would have the same thing to say if someone were lampooning Christianity in a similar way. I have no examples in front of me, but I am sure it has happened.


Paul - 2/5/2006

Mr & Mrs Clinton are and have always been aghainst free anything, except maybe free sex. Mr Clinton was a disgrace to America and has continued that practice into his retirement. He and Hillary gave away so much of America it's frightening. To the rest of the world: Please don't characterize America as the home of the Clintons. That would be as insulting as having him elected, twice!


Paul - 2/5/2006

Mr & Mrs Clinton are and have always been aghainst free anything, except maybe free sex. Mr Clinton was a disgrace to America and has continued that practice into his retirement. He and Hillary gave away so much of America it's frightening. To the rest of the world: Please don't characterize America as the home of the Clintons. That would be as insulting as having him elected, twice!


Denise - 2/5/2006

You are absolutely right.

And everyone took his statement out of context. He is talking about generalities - stereotyping. When ignorant people read a cartoon like that they will depict the entire people / religion in that fashion, when it is only a small percentage that are fanatical. The Islamic people I have met and have asked about the religion have told me the Koran teaches never hurting anyone with more than a pillow. That the mother is loved and beholden right under Mohammed. That Mohammed believed Jesus and Buddha were prophets.

Yes, there are bad fanatics... and that applies to all religions. Educated publications should not extend stereotypes to masses of innocent people.


- 2/5/2006

"Bill Clinton is probably the best president the US has had in the past 100 years"

Based on your standard.


- 2/5/2006

Go the hell!


- 2/5/2006

What is wrong of showing the hairy face? Is Mohammad's face too shamful to show to the public?


Javier - 2/5/2006

Unbelievable... Bill Clinton is probably the best president the US has had in the past 100 years (except perhaps for Kennedy). But again, the rise of right wing extremist in the US like most of you in this post is not a surprise to me. "defending our way of life" is the worst trash an american can mention in the freedom of speech discourse. Basicaly what you are saying is: Muslims are fanatics which we may disrespect because they do not share our same values and beliefs. Try a little respect!!! It goes a long way!

But i guess most of you are in favour of wars on middle eastern countries in the name of freedom (hence Irak), and the continuing repression of sovereign nations as Iran, North Korea and the depiction of american soldiers as heroes just because they were sent overseas and killed 1 potential terrorist... along with 20 inocent women and children... wow what a hero!!!

How about picking up a book and educating youselves... perhaps this way you may acquire a better understanding of other cultures and therefore learn how to respect one another wether you share the same beliefs or not. Thank God i live in Canada, where diversity is not a challenge waiting to be conquered but rather a way of life.


Hosoh del Rosoh - 2/4/2006

What else do you expect from a man who is a coward, bully, abuser of women, adulterer, perjurer, rapist, morally bereft, and with no character or integrity. And this is who the Democrats hold up as their standard bearer. He would sell his own mother down the river if he thought it would benefit him.


Adara - 2/2/2006

I'm not Muslim, I'm actually Hindu, but I can see why those cartoons are more than just making fun of the faith, its actually pretty offensive, meaning offensive beyond caricatures. I would say that the journalist does owe an apology- but then the radical islamicists decided to threaten physical harm and threaten democratic ideals.

Hence, Clinton was right, but now circumstances have changed and he's wrong. It has nothing to do with his sleeping around, or with him being against free speech. Living in America, the man that threatens democracy the most is our current President.

Yeah, I'm part of that percent that didn't vote for him.


allen gillespie - 2/2/2006

Using free speech to ridicule someone else's religion is personally insulting a stranger. Simply something that decent people don't due. Congradulations to Bill Clinton for taking the correct side on this one.


AnAmerican - 2/2/2006

I am rather ashamed of our own press not supporting you. I damn sure do. You have expressed yourself in a free and legitimate way. Every religion on earth has had its Gods dipicted in caricature and never in the modern world has there been such insane activity. I unfortunately know whats coming and so do you. These extremist show every day how they are losing their sanity second by second. They are completely barbaric and will soon be recognized as only this and then it will be to late for them to recover. I feel sorry for the Muslims who realize that they are essentially doomed. It would seem that the threshold has been broken and there is no fixing it. Dont be intimidated. Also never listen to Carter as well. He is also another Clinton. They live in la la land and how our Nation ever elected these idiots is simply unbelievable. America is great though. I just bought the second season of the X-Files for $37 American dollars. Now thats what I call America. If I could afford Lego kits I would buy some of the products I just saw. I must have had a million Legos when I was a kid. Be Proud of yourself and your home.


AnAmerican - 2/2/2006

Look any human being has to take the issue of marriage between a man and a woman seriously. Clinton spat in the face of the world by being publically disgraced in every way once his affair was revealed while IN OFFICE AS PRESIDENT. What does this sum up to?
He is a liar. He does not respect the position of the President of the US. He cant be trusted in any way as exemplified by his adultry. When ever I hear any thing about Clinton with respect to his Presidency all human beings should realize he has absolutely no credibility due to this one issue and that is a BIG period..


Bent Frederiksen - 2/2/2006

As a Dane I have been brought up to be polite to anyone around: "If you can't be nice – stay silent"

I have – up to now – been very much ‘pro Bill’ - but his turning against freedom-of-speech (in my country – NOT USA) really piss me off – and that is why I’m forgetting to be polite and asking:

… Was it not he – The President of The United States – that denied Ms. Monica HER freedom-of-speech – and how did he do THAT?


… As stated in former comments:

“ … but the fact that Bill Clinton intervenes and speaks AGAINST these corner stones of a democratic society is beyond me. The Danes have always regarded Mister Clinton as an intelligent man and was respected in Denmark and Europe. But that has surely changed now; the words of mister Clinton has destroyed his image, and is just plain STUPID. Shame on him! No words can describe how much respect that man has lost …”


K - 2/1/2006

I forgot to mention,

HELL is waiting for Billy Boy and them who are the likes. Democracy is their front word for Dictatorship.


K - 2/1/2006

True True,
Im with U


Joseph Murphy - 2/1/2006

Please...... the Clinton's (both Bill and Hill.) know only one free thing. What is free for them, at the expense of others. Free speech for others, forget it. Oh and I forgot one other free thing they are in favor of: Giving this great Country away to others for free, sans sacrifice.


PJ - 2/1/2006

For better or worse, someone has started making tshirts with a cartoon: http://www.spreadshirt.net/shop.php?sid=120266


Bry - 1/31/2006

“I dont agree with what you are saying but I’ll die defending your right to say it”
-Voltaire

Support FREEDOM of SPEECH, Support DENMARK!


Tommy - 1/31/2006

An behalf of me and my friends in Denmark: Your support is greatly appreciated, thank you.


Thomas Madsen - 1/31/2006

Clinton has again shown his true colors. I have absolutely no respect for the man and never had.

Anyway continue to support the western way of life against the people who are trying to destroy it, you can do this by buying danish. Stand strong and together, thx


Frank Thomsen - 1/31/2006

As a dane, and thus citizen in a country where democracy and freedom of speech are corner stones of the society, it is difficult to understand the scale of this history, much less the threats being made to scandinavian citizens and particularly the danish people. There are a lot of misunderstandings in this and while the danish people are accused of not respecting the muslim prophet, the muslims on the other side doesn't respect the freedom of speech.

That could perhaps have been predicted (more or less), but the fact that Bill Clinton intervenes and speaks AGAINST these corner stones of a democratic society is beyond me. The danes have always regarded mister Clinton as an intelligent man and was respected in Denmark and Europe. But that has surely changed now; the words of mister Clinton has destroyed his image, and is just plain STUPID. Shame on him! No words can describe how much respect that man has lost

On the other hand the "Buy danish" movement is now well known in Denmark (through all major media), and we thank you!


Steve Benfield - 1/31/2006

Billy Boy is consistent. He is always on the wrong side of democracy and what is right and decent in the world. Buy butter cookies!


beth - 1/30/2006

Shame on him is right! But you are right - he doesn't know the meaning of the word.

I guess it's too much to hope he'd grow a spine