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Mar 20, 2010 1:23 am

More evidence of idiocy

Josh Marshall at TPM:

Public Policy Polling has a new poll out on the national 'birther' movement. And it turns out to be another fascinating look at the mystic overlap between ideological and simple ignorance.

Of the 24% of the population in the 'birther' category, one interesting thing to note is that more Americans seem to think Obama was born in Indonesia (10%) than Kenya (7%), which suggests not only that a frighteningly large number of Americans are birthers but that they have a shockingly low level of basic 'birther' literacy. As you know, according to orthodox 'birther' theory, Obama was born in Kenya.

Even better, 6% fully concede that Obama was born in Hawaii. They just don't believe Hawaii is part of the United States.

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Mario Apuzzo, Esq. - 12/11/2009


Where is the "paranoid fantasy" in Obama's father not being a United States citizen when Obama was born?

Jonathan Dresner - 11/3/2009

Nobody by that name has registered an account at HNN, so obviously we can't have banned him unless he violated our terms of use by registering under a false name.

Jonathan Dresner

Nyall Meredith - 11/3/2009

Rumor has it that Mario has been banned from this site - is this true?

He can be a pain(we've crossed sword s before) but banning seems a bit extreme.

ramjet767 - 11/1/2009

Good reading at these two sites too.


Ed Hale Jr. - 11/1/2009

I've read your filing and I think you let old Charles input one too many of his paranoid fantasy. I don't think you are as bad as Orly, but if you follow Charles it could ruin your ambulance chasing skills. Hell, you could lose your practice, while up sleeping on heating grate and eating cheese of discarded pizza boxes.

Mario Apuzzo, Esq. - 11/1/2009

Hi Ed Hale Jr.

You will have to fogive me but I do not know what a "real live birther lawyer" is.

The Kerchner case is not a losing case until the Supreme Court turns it down.

I have already read up on United States v. Wong Kim Ark case. It supports my position that Obama is not an Article II "natural born Citizen" and at best a 14th Amendment "citizen of the United States."

Would you be so kind and show me what I do not understand about "Constitution citizenship law."

My client is a former Navy Commander who swore to defend and protect the Constitution. Your client is someone who does not have enough courage to show a birth certificate to the people who he asks to vote for him but then would wants us to believe that he has enough courage to be the Commander in Chief of the Military of the most powerful country on the planet. Let's put it up to a public vote, who is stupid my friend, you or I?

Ed Hale Jr. - 11/1/2009

Oh Yeah! A real live birther lawyer! Mr. Mario Apunzo, The lawyer in the losing Kerchner v Obama case. How that appeal going buddy? Shouldn't you be reading up on the United States v. Wong Kim Ark case. Seeing that you don't understand Constitution citizenship law.

I can say one thing for Mario, he ain't crazy like Orly, but he has a crazy client like Kerchner and that just makes hin plain stupid.

Ed Hale - 10/31/2009

The Stupidity of the birthers knows no boundaries. From no he was born in Kenya to Indonesia to you need two US citizen to be a Natural Born citizen. None which is true , but that doesn't stop them. With no legal ground to stand on, they use most of their time spinning lies and believing in Sovereign Citizen crap.

Here is the website of the where the above poster loves to spew her crap.

Also while at her site say Hi to Mountain Pulibus Goat aka Charles Kerchner. Ask him how his case (Kerchner v Obama) is doing LOL.

What a bunch of loser

Mario Apuzzo, Esq. - 10/31/2009

I do not know why you try to confuse the issue on where Obama was born. It does not matter where people think he may be born. The point is that Obama has not adequately proven that he was born anywhere. This is easy stuff.

Just one of we the people - 10/31/2009

I have been a "Birther" since summer of 2008. I and most of the people that really follow and understand the issue, don't really care where he was born. He has stated himself that at the time of his birth his fathers citizenship was ruled under British law. Following the laws at the time of his birth (American and British) he was a British subject at birth; therefore, can never be a Natural Born Citizen of These United States. No matter what Orly Tazte says. The Constitution only give a pass to those who were born British Subjects at the time of the signing of the Constitution and Barrak Obama sure doesn't look to be over 200 years old to me.
I just finished reading your book, How Stupid Are We? and now ask the same question of you?