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Dec 15, 2004

Good Bye Pedro!




Pedro Martinez has left and signed with the Mets. Pending a few relatively minor financial details, and what I will argue are some not so minor physical ones, Pedro’s spectacular seven year run with the Red Sox is over. Back in June I posted a piece about Pedro on Rebunk from my Red Sox Diaries that captures up some of what I feel about his Red Sox years. Now he is gone. His prime is assuredly over. He will always have a place in every Red Sox fan’s heart for the pure joy that he brought to us as fans. I will never be able to root against him. But obviously this era is over, and like a failed relationship it is time to walk away. The following stems from an email that I wrote to my buddy Rob, better known to followers of the Sox Diaries as “The Thunderstick.”:

Obviously this is sad news from a fan’s vantage point. I've never been in that locker room, so I do not have any idea to what extent the whole prima donna rep is deserved or was a distraction. I do not have to meet payroll, so I really do not care about a few million here or there. All I know is that at his peak Pedro was the best, most jaw-dropping, and most exciting pitcher I have ever seen. All I know is that game 5 of the 99 Indians series is the most awesome display I have ever witnessed (albeit on radio, as I was on the road, alas), even moreso than Curt this postseason. All I know is that on a pure numbers basis Pedro was better than anyone of his generation, but more than that, he was better than Koufax and Gibson and Ford and anyone else you care to mention -- and he did it in an era of lower mounds, smaller parks, and, yes, juiced hitters. All I know is that I'll feel a little sick to see him in a Mets uniform, in any uniform other than for the Sox.

But further, as a fan, I wonder about the impact for next year. I realize that being hamstrung with bad contracts is a recipe for disaster, but I also know that we have a lot more slack in our payroll than the Royals or A's or Twins, and a bad contract does not damage us like it does those sorts of teams. Meanwhile, there is a distinct possibility that of those four years Pedro may well have two more Cy caliber seasons, which makes it a bad contract for only the years he is not dominant or is hurt. That is not as burdensome as, say, Sean Green's (Or Jason Giambi’s) contract. We have a giant, gaping hole in the middle of our pitching staff, and Pedro strung it along to the extent that now the pickings are slim. I love the idea of Ben Sheets in a Sox uniform, but is that viable? Are the Brewers really going to get rid of their best young arm before the 2005 season even starts? The word is that their getting rid of him at the deadline is inevitable, but who knows? Surely the Brewers do not want to be seen as tanking 2005 already. But if they are going to be parting with him in July, would it not make sense to go after him full stop now rather than when everyone is making their late-season run? And of course finally, could this have an effect on the Varitek signing? On the one hand, perhaps it frees up a couple of million to close what appears increasingly simply to be a difference in money.

As for Pedro and the Mets? Well, I think Pedro is going to regret this move. He will forever be a God in Boston, but as a current player, that recedes into the past tense a bit. No more will we boil with that passion for him. He is not going to feel that amidst the empty blue and orange seats in that s***hole in Queens. How is it going to feel when the Mets are 12 games out in July and he is pitching before 15,000 fans furious (with the helpful prodding of the back pages of the tabloids, of course) that their huge acquisition has already been on the DL once and has a 7-5 record with an era hovering near 4? That may not happen -- Pedro may indeed end up as a star back in the NL, facing fresh victims and an anemic pitcher every nine batters. But even if he is awesome will he ever match what he will find in the Fens? Not a prayer, and as someone who has played in Montreal he ought to damned well know as much.

And what are the Mets thinking? Never mind the money – overpaying by a few million may not be the most devastating part of this contract. But what of these rumors that the Mets may not make him take an MRI, despite rumors that his labrum is either torn or frayed up to 90%? The Mets are drooling retards if they let him take a watered down physical with no MRI. It's one thing for the Sox to accept status quo ante. He's been ours, we know what to do with him, and this is expected when you re-sign your own players. But the Mets are going to guarantee a fourth year of a $50-56 million contract and they are not going to check that labrum? If they are that stupid, Pedro needs to sign with them right now and not look back. But I cannot believe that Manaya is going to be that colossally dumb. Then again, these are the Mets.

So who, other than the Sheets wet dream, is out there? Odalis Perez and Matt Clement seem to be on everyone's lips, and Beckett and Hudson are skirting the periphery. Any of those would be ok. None of them (save for Sheets) thrills me, but then again, with our offense, if we can get a younger guy and put him in that 2 slot behind Schill, maybe it can work out. This is not catastrophic for the Sox, to be sure. Even without Pedro the projected pythagorean numbers give us a 98-99 win ballclub, and that is assuming we do not improve at all from where we are. But that does not make this signing any less sad from a fan’s perspective, and at least for the time being we are a worse baseball team as a consequence.

Pedro Martinez has earned a place in the Red Sox pantheon. He is the greatest pitcher I have ever seen. He was a key component for bringing them the World series title this year. This is a business and he can make whatever decision he feels is best for him without recriminations. But I think he is going to regret it.



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Derek Charles Catsam - 12/25/2004

I am also absolutely thrilled by the signing of Wade Miller. I was driving through Houston when sports radio announced that the Astros were not going to tender him. I said aloud that I hoped Theo was on the phone with his agent. It is a great signing if it works out, and a smart gamble even iof it does not. It's a heavily incentive laden contract for a guy who has won 40 games the last three years. It's just a matter of how that frayed rotator cuff holds up. He passed the physical, which means very little except to say that the Sox wanted him to pass and they were content enough with what they saw to go through with it.
dc


Greg Robinson - 12/18/2004

Clement's no Pedro in his prime, but he is a pretty damn talented pitcher. Funny looking, but talented.


Derek Charles Catsam - 12/18/2004

Greg --
i am glad we signed one of the remaining free agent pitchers. I think Clement was the best available. I would guess that with our lineup he'll flourish. He's a high K but also high walk kind of guy, but as a number 2 we could do worse. i hope this does not mean that we are done with the quest for pitchers, but suddenly the staff looks a lot better than it did, say, 24 hours ago.
dc


Greg Robinson - 12/18/2004

How about 25 million for Clement? Are you happy with that one? If anyone had worse run support than Hudson it was Clement.


Derek Charles Catsam - 12/17/2004

Good point. The reason? I'm retarded.
dc


Greg Robinson - 12/17/2004

It was still possible at the time you wrote your original post wasn't it? Why would you mention it if it weren't.


Derek Charles Catsam - 12/17/2004

Hudson is also a Brave. Part of picking up a new pitcher has to do with the art of the possible, and Hudson is not a possibility.
dc


Greg Robinson - 12/17/2004

I don't disagree that Sheets is phenomenal but having the most wins over the last 5 years shows longevity and ability to produce year in and year out; Sheets is relatively young still. A .701 winning % means he wins consistently. Further, he has had among the worst run support averages. I'm sure Sheets is a 20 game winner with a decent team not from Milwaukee but Hudson is a damn good pitcher; one of the best in the game with little history of injury.


Derek Charles Catsam - 12/17/2004

I'd take Ben Sheets any day and twice on Sunday over Hudson. What, precisely, does winning % men? i am not one of those who dismisses it as meaningless, but it is a statistic wholly reliant upon context.
dc


Greg Robinson - 12/17/2004

Hudson has the most wins in the AL in the last 5 years and an astounding winning %. He's relatively young and very talented. If Boston could sign him, you wouldn't be thrilled? He's the best name out there!


Derek Charles Catsam - 12/16/2004

Richard --
part of the problem is that GM's have to do so much more than simply assess and sign talent. there is a media and please-the-fans component. that is what was so amazing and gutsy about theo's trading Nomar for OCab and Minky last season -- the uproar among fans was astounding. You had nimrods (ahem) saying that they had no idea why Theo would so desperately engage in such a clear dumping of the most popular red Sox player since Yaz's heyday. Those fans (ahem) were wrong, but too many GMs are unwilling to alienate the fan base in the short run to get it right in the long run. Probably this is because most of them fear that there will be no long run. Minaya needed to make a splash. The Mets needed to grab the back pages. So suddenly it is a possibility that they can sign pedro, but they have to not only match but substantially surpass the Sox offer.

Van --
Mo definitely was victimized by injuries, but i have a hard time believing that his incrediby expanding girth did not play a bit of a role. But like Mo, I would not be surprised to see Pedro publicly lamenting leaving Boston. And yes, Slappy Rodriguez may have salvaged something had he admitted that ok, yeah, you got me -- it's about the money. Instead he may go down simply as the most overpaid choker in the history of the sport. Kind of warms the cockles, does it not?
dc


Van L. Hayhow - 12/16/2004

Yes, they do. Mo Vaughn was terrific in Boston, not so good elsewhere, though injuries had a lot to do with it. ARod had to know that the Rangers would be hamstrung after he signed his enormous contract and would find it difficult to contend. I would have respected him more if he had said at that point, "I'd have to be crazy to turn down that money."


Richard Henry Morgan - 12/16/2004

You could be right. The Mets have history of making bad deals.


Derek Charles Catsam - 12/16/2004

Richard --
Wouldn't it be great to hear a player say "Hell yes, it was about the money." And you know what? We'd begrudge that p[layer a lot less than when players pretend it is about anything else. Though I have to say, I'm certain that once he passes this physical, pedro won't be subject to any others. That is a deal to seal the contract. Once he does that, he won't be subject to one that can invalidate his contract. That's why signing him is such a huge risk. Once that Pedro is signd, that contract is guaranteed.
dc


Richard Henry Morgan - 12/15/2004

I remember when A-Rod left Seattle, a contending team, for Texas, proclaiming all the way it wasn't about the money -- Lupica had a lot of fun with that. Well, here's a news flash -- it's all about the Benjamins, both from Pedro's side and the Mets'. When he ain't producing anymore, they can give him a physical and say he failed it.