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Nov 3, 2005

Knowing




[crossposted at Easily Distracted]


Juan Cole spoke at Swarthmore last night, courtesy of War News Radio, and I was fortunate enough to have dinner with him as well.

I thought his talk was terrifically clear, informative and useful, basically a great demonstration of what a classroom lecture can be, a skillful balancing of performance and substance. Cole sparks a lot of reaction among bloggers: some use him as the source of first and last resort for authoritative statements about what is happening in Iraq; others regard him as the incarnation of the demonic expert, scheming to insert his authority into the flow of events, distorting what he knows for instrumental ends.


At the least, I find both reactions tedious because they don't seem to understand the useful ordinariness of what Cole is doing: he's providing a model of how scholars could and should engage the world. You want the Ivan Tribbles of academic to understand how blogging helps academia, then Cole is a perfect one-stop shopping trip. What he does isn't a substitute for his scholarship, but it makes his scholarly knowledge useful, even if you disagree with it. I get tired of the churlish spirit that seems to demand that the only experts worth having are the ones who happen to accord with one's own views. I'd rather see most academics rise to the standard of public accessibility that Cole charts out as a basic attribute of their professionalism, and then worry about whose knowledge is most authoritative after we get to that point.

It's a measure of how often more sensible, pragmatic voices are driven out of conversations among bloggers that the more ordinary reality of Cole's (and other expert) contributions to the public sphere gets sidelined. He's a guy who knows a great many useful things about the modern political history of Iran and Iraq and has the scholarly discipline to organize what he knows in various ways, coupled with an ability and will to clearly communicate what he knows, something that not that many academics do or want to do. His knowledge is anything but infallible, and judging from both dinner conversation and his talk, he's not at all defensive or obscurantist about the limits and shortcomings of what he knows. Not the least because he's a historian by training, and like many of us, is far more comfortable taking a detached view of what can and cannot be done to shape the present, and of the typical long-term time frame involved in positive transformations of the world.

Cole knows less about subjects outside his specialized knowledge, and I found some of his speculations in these areas more dubious, such as his reading of the primary motivations of the Bush Administration in Iraq (the dismantling of state ownership of the oil sector in the Arab world). And even within his specialization, of course, he has his pet readings and theories about what has happened and what will happen that collide squarely with the understandings of other specialists with equal experience in the region. What of it? That's the challenge to any educated, critical-thinking person: read, read, read, listen, listen, listen, and then read and listen some more. Gain information, gain perspective, use the tools you've got and if you need other tools, go get them. It's not that hard to get to a point where you're able to make useful (and measured) judgements about the relative value of any assertion about what has happened and what will happen.

One thing that Cole does contend, and I think he's right to contend, is that many of the people who shaped the early American occupation of Iraq knew almost nothing about the political or social history of the place they were occupying, and more importantly, didn't care to know. For some, like Paul Wolfowitz, I think that was in an odd way a principled position. Wolfowitz appears to operate with a conception of social change (as do some Straussians) in which the specificity of any given society's history is far less important than a relatively universal human plasticity and adaptability to basic applications of political power, e.g., that if you liberate people from authoritarianism, they will universally conform to a kind of lowest-common denominator liberalism. For all that Francis Fukuyama has broken with some of his intellectual allies on Iraq, this is a position you could derive from his earlier writings if you wanted to, that the geist of world history is moving us inexorably towards liberal democracy.

There are other voices out there, among bloggers and otherwise, who would contend for other reasons that all or most statements of expertise about Iraq would have been and remain suspect guides for future action, that we should trust instead to what we already know commonsensically and collectively, to the wisdom of crowds or the native capacities of a critical-thinking intellect. I raised the specter of Kremlinology in talking with Cole, so I'm not totally averse to this kind of skepticism about expertise. When cause-and-effect are veiled behind opaque institutions and general practices of secrecy and deception that make opacity a virtue, it's hard to translate even deep knowledge of history and events into a confident reading of the consequences of any given course of action. That goes not just for experts but even for people living the history we're all expertly trying to read: I don't believe Grand Ayatollah Sistani or anyone else close to some source of social power in Iraq has the capacity to transparently understand what is likely to happen if they do one thing or another, or what some other actor is likely to do next, or even what their own motives and interests are. We understand others poorly, no matter whom we are, and ourselves only a little better. Power does not invariably get what power wants; power may not even know what power needs.

A position that says there's nothing to be gained by knowing the history that Cole knows, that it would have made no difference for American planners to understand the history of Shi'a Islam, or the political history of the Dawa Party, or the internal architecture of Hussein's Ba'athist state, or any number of other topics, strikes me as an acutely self-defeating position, a cutting off of the nose to spite one's face. The general contradictions of trying to liberate people through occupying them, of trying to create a universal liberalism from above without being able to operate from inside a society from its underpinnings, those contradictions no amount of knowledge could surmount. On the other hand any number of specific procedural misfires and misunderstandings could have been avoided (and could still be avoided), and some of those have had concrete consequences in terms of lives lost, opportunities squandered, objectives unmet. Moreover, that knowledge would have allowed a different and more modest set of expectations about the aims of the war.

The curious thing about Cole's account of the occupation so far, if you listen carefully, is that it's potentially very positive about the occupation, not that he says it as such. You can come away from his recounting recognizing that whether it meant to or not, the United States actually did liberate some Iraqi communities, did make it possible for them to achieve democratic self-determination. It's just that at least some of that was achieved in spite of rather than because of specific on-the-ground decisions by Paul Bremer and the people around him, and that the end result of democratic self-determination, at least in southern Iraq, may be a state that looks less like Morocco and more like Iran. Cole put it drily at one point near the end of his talk (I'm paraphrasing here):"Americans continue to be surprised that many Muslims are not scared of Islam". Modernity and liberalism are capacious, not specific: any given human society in the 21st Century can be both modern and liberal and yet depart significantly in its cultural, political and institutional character from some other society with equal claim to exemplify modern liberalism. You can argue (potentially vehemently) against the choices that other people (or your own people) make democratically, but being committed to democracy as a form means accepting those choices once the dust settles and the arguments have all been made. You can always gloat later when your arguments--and your knowledge--were disregarded by democratically-elected leaders and their supporters who think that the coin of expertise is so debased as to be worthless, that their own intellects equip them with such superior intrinsic insight as to trump all knowledge, or that their ideological fervor is a substitute for empirical substance.



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Dale B. Light - 11/9/2005

The perception that Cole is not fluent in Arabic comes from a series of posts on Lebanese and Iraqi blogs like "Across the Bay" and "Iraq the Model" in which Arabs have charged that he lacks fluency and because of that has seriously misinterpreted documents and speeches.


Dale B. Light - 11/9/2005

Why do you consider Lehrer to be "mainstream"? PBS is subsidized specifically to provide an alternative to mainstream programming.


Jonathan Dresner - 11/7/2005

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Ralph E. Luker - 11/7/2005

Where were the Graham/Nixon concentration camps and gas chambers? Your shameful use of "Nazi-like" to cover _all_ manifestations of anti-Semitism indicates an elemental failure to be able to understand distinctions. That's how we get polarizing and outrageously wrong statements like "Republicans are Fascists" and "Democrats are Commies." If you want to pursue that kind of talk, you need to do it at Free Republic or Front Page Rag or comparable sites on the Left -- not at HNN, where differences are respected.


Sergio Ramirez - 11/7/2005

It may strike you as garden variety Mr. Luker, but that, after all, was the point.


Ralph E. Luker - 11/7/2005

Billy Graham's garden-variety anti-Semitic statements are _not_ "Nazi-like" and your failure to understand the difference dishonors the magnitude of the Holocaust. Where were the Nixon/Graham extermination camps? As I've said, you are given to false and extreme accusations for which you refuse to accept responsibility and change your ways. You keep insisting on them!


Sergio Ramirez - 11/7/2005

But first you called me a bigot. Only when forced to demonstrate how I am bigotted did you cower into the corner of universalims and relativism."WHen I say bigot, I, of course mean everyone." I'm still not convinced Juan Cole can speak Arabic with any fluency, but I am willing to admit I may have been misinformed. There. I wish you could do the same about Rev. Billy Graham.


Ralph E. Luker - 11/7/2005

Bother to read what I said. I said that we all have casual bigotries and that yours didn't interest me.


Sergio Ramirez - 11/7/2005

Yes ideed, but unlike your accusation of me, as a bigot, I can throughly document what I've said about you.


Ralph E. Luker - 11/7/2005

"ass", "Ralphy Boy", "fired Professor"
The pretense that you have no casual bigotry might make you dangerous if you were capable of anything more than name-calling.


Sergio Ramirez - 11/7/2005

And you, fired Professor, are incapable of backing up your charge of me as a bigot. As expected, an impotent howl in the depths of cyberspace.


Ralph E. Luker - 11/7/2005

Sergio, Your repeated name-calling here identifies you as a troll. We all have casual bigotries (most of them we don't even recognize as such). I've never found your commentaries interesting enough to look into yours in particular. Do not think that your name-calling ("ass", "Ralphy Boy") will tempt me to return the favor. You are unworthy of further conversation.


Sergio Ramirez - 11/7/2005

Who was the honorable person here--you or Billy Graham--late of the earth, new resident of Hell? I make accusations, Ralphy Boy? How about producing some examples of my casual bigotry. Now watch Flamer Luker change the subject . . .


Ralph E. Luker - 11/7/2005

No. Because I am not, as you continue to assert, an apologist for anti-Semitism. As I have said, you continue to make false charges against honorable people. Caught at doing so, you refuse to acknowledge it.


Sergio Ramirez - 11/7/2005

nuff said


Ralph E. Luker - 11/7/2005

There was no "seething desire" there. You'll want to recall these conversations if ever your casual bigotry is recorded for posterity and it is transcribed and broadcast within your lifetime. But, then, your record of false accusations is already on record here.


Sergio Ramirez - 11/7/2005

My point, my only point, in recreating what was possibly not your finest hour, was to show that all of us are at times excessive and/or ill-informed in our judgements. I grant you the possibility that Billy Graham never personally killed anyone--neither did Joseph Goebbels. What the two had in common was an analysis of world events that placed a malevolent "Jew" at the center of all our misfortune, and a seething desire desire for vengence against these horrid destroyers of civilization.


Ralph E. Luker - 11/7/2005

Sergio, You're given to false and defamatory claims against other people, right and left: you made false charges against Juan Cole, you've said that I am an ass and that Billy Graham is Nazi-like. You just got nailed on the charges against Cole. Your own braying speaks to the second issue. With regard to Graham, you didn't show me the gas chambers, the fascist regime, or any other convincing evidence. Don't you think it's time to bring this non-productive discussion to an end? Or do you have other false extremist claims you want to make against other respectable people without even an attempt at convincing evidence.


Sergio Ramirez - 11/6/2005

I recall it very well indeed. You challenged the assumption that his statement was "nazi-like." That was, and is, an exercise of mauvaise foi on your part. At best.



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Ralph E. Luker - 11/6/2005

Sergio, It's a good thing that you are free of all prejudices, isn't it? You don't recall the discussion very well, do you?


Sergio Ramirez - 11/6/2005

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Ralph E. Luker - 11/5/2005

My point would be that instead of correcting yourself or acknowledging correction by others, you are inclined to change the issue and pursue the argument as if nothing significant had happened. That suggests to me that you are directed first of all by ideological blinders and interested only secondarily, if at all, to learning. You can carry on the ideological agenda, if you wish, at places like Free Republic and Front Page Rag.


Sergio Ramirez - 11/5/2005

Well, I'd say about as responsible as anyone else. I state things that I know, or believe, to be true, and shy away from things I am unsure of. But, like yourself, I have been wrong, and may be wrong about the depth of Cole's Arabic skills. I do seem to remember him refusing to debate Pipes in Arabic--is this wrong too>


Manan Ahmed - 11/5/2005

"So next no doubt it will be bruited about that Bush is fluent in several dialects of Iraqi Arabic and can curse out Ahmadinejad in the patois used by Iranian sailors in Bushehr, whereas Cole bought his degree from from a notorious California diploma mill located near Hollywood (aha!) and still can't parse hollow verbs to save his soul."


Ralph E. Luker - 11/5/2005

Sergio, How responsible are you for the truthfulness of what you claim on-line?


Sergio Ramirez - 11/5/2005

Yes, he's made an awful lot of excuses for it, but the fact remains that he cannot hold an Arabic conversation at the level of, say, Daniel Pipes!


Christopher Newman - 11/5/2005

I think Sergio refers to the fact that Coles apparently can't speak Arabic very well.


Brian Ulrich - 11/5/2005

Yes, I would say Lewis still counts as an ME expert. I think he's wrong a lot, but even his errors are worth examining.


Manan Ahmed - 11/4/2005

And quite proficient in Urdu, as well.


Brian Ulrich - 11/4/2005

Cole is fluent in both Arabic and Persian.


Sergio Ramirez - 11/4/2005

Good lord, how can you life with all your mauvaise fois? One of these days the contradictions within your head will be heightened to the point of explosion!


Sergio Ramirez - 11/4/2005

Yeah, I'd think a bit more of Cole's "scholarship" if he could at least read Arabic!


Brian Ulrich - 11/4/2005

Producing scholarly work on the modern Middle East allows one to claim to be an expert on the Middle East. Being an expert on ancient warfare does not. I thus think of Hanson as a miscellaneous commentator the same as the other generalists such as Krauthammer, Ivins, etc.


Louis N Proyect - 11/4/2005

Frankly I don't have that much use for the Lehrer newshour myself, but it does define a certain standard of mainstream respectability. I imagine that Hanson has been on once or twice since the show is under a lot of pressure from ultraright forces within its own bureaucracy to function as a propaganda wing of the Bush administration.


Sergio Ramirez - 11/4/2005

I don't know about Hitchens, but Hanson HAS appeared on that show! Let's wait patiently while Louis Proyect concocts a new twist that allows him to relativize that.


Christopher Newman - 11/4/2005

How about Bernard Lewis? Does he count as an expert on the Middle East or do you have to check and see whether he has appeared on the Lehrer News Hour?


Christopher Newman - 11/4/2005

What's with the Lehrer News Hour thing? Is that the arbiter of who is and is not an "authority"? Has Hitchens ever appeared on the Lehrer News Hour, for instance? Are you stipulating that anyone who has appeared on the Lehrer News Hour is respectable? Depending upon the particular focus of your "respectable" discussion, Hanson has as much expertise as Cole has.


Louis N Proyect - 11/3/2005

I guess that the Lehrer news hour understands that speculations about Kramer's ties to Israel intelligence do not merit excluding Cole from their A list. Cole, after all, is a Middle East specialist who--despite Christopher Hitchens--is well-versed in the literature and the language. Hanson is a classicist who seems to have a disjointed second career as a Rush Limbaugh type ideologist. Again, there is no comparison between the two. Anybody who invites Hanson to speak at a respectable gathering on the war on Iraq might as well invite Michelle Malkin or Dennis Miller.


Christopher Newman - 11/3/2005

Well, ummmm, I guess that explains everything.

So is putting out a call for "oppo research" and speculating wildly about Kramer's ties with Israeli intelligence taken seriously by the non-lunatics?


Louis N Proyect - 11/3/2005

I imagine that Hanson is a pretty good historian, but that's not the issue. His postings on current events are the ravings of a rightwing lunatic, while Cole's are taken seriously. That is why Cole is a frequent guest on the Lehrer news hour and Hanson is not.


Christopher Newman - 11/3/2005

Okay, but what is it? Is Coles a better historian? I'd argue no.

I'll ask again, why is Coles' putting the weight of his "authority" behind a call for "oppo research" *different* from anything Victor Davis Hanson has done?


Barry DeCicco - 11/3/2005

Christopher, perhaps that's because there's a big difference between Cole and Hanson.


Christopher Newman - 11/3/2005

I've only been lurking here regularly for the past few months, so maybe I have the wrong impression, but Cole seems to be treated rather more gently than, say, Victor Davis Hanson on this site. When Cole throws the weight of his expertise and authority behind his more "dubious claims," is he acting any differently from how many here accuse Hanson of acting? If not, what's the difference? The only reason people listen to him, after all, is because he is believed to be an "authority" on the subject. What is the effect, then, when an "authority" like Cole puts out a call for "oppo research" on Martin Kramer and hints that Kramer may be an Israeli spy?


Louis N Proyect - 11/3/2005

As somebody who checks in on "Informed Comment" every few days, I am of two minds on his role. Cole does maintain a steady and effective critique of Bush administration falsehoods, but as Burke points out, he is hostile to the idea of Iraqis settling their own affairs. Basically, he is a sympathizer of the Shi'ites and treated their recent victory at the polls as a positive development rather than as what Chomsky might call a "demonstration election". I saw an interview with Gilbert Achcar on Democracy Now two nights ago in which he commented on an interview that Cole had given to Amy Goodman a while back. He advocated that the US withdraw its ground troops but that it maintain air presence so as to determine the outcome of future military conflicts between Iraqis. Achcar drily observed that this was the British policy in the 1920s.