Mukasey Still Doesn't Know Water Boarding Is Torture?
Taking a more direct approach, Senator Ted Kennedy asked Mukasey, “Would water boarding be torture if it was done to you?” He answered flatly, “I would feel it was” -- but then insisted that his words did not constitute a legal opinion. “It's like saying you are opposed to stealing but aren't sure if bank robbery would qualify,” Kennedy responded.
Mukasey also declined to say whether the United States government had previously used water boarding: “I am not authorized to talk about what the CIA has done in the past.” However, this Monday John Negroponte, CIA chief from 2005 to 2007, appeared to confirm its use when he said it had been made illegal and “has not been used in years.”
The record shows that this form of torture was used by U.S. forces in Viet Nam, and even more extensively by U.S. forces during the Philippine occupation (1898 to 1911). In the Philippines, U.S. officers were determined to produce what General Franklin Bell called “a demoralized and obedient population.” To this end, in Batangas, Bell used what was then called “the water cure” as he ordered the destruction of “humans, crops, food stores, domestic animals, houses and boats” In Samar, General Jacob Smith used water boarding as he turned the Filipino province into a “howling wilderness.”
High U.S. officials were candid in those days. William Howard Taft, U.S. appointed Governor of the Philippines, testified under oath to Senators the “so called water cure” was used “on some occasions to extract information.” General Frederick Funston, whose record in the Philippines earned him two Congressional Medals of Honor, told a San Francisco audience he endorsed massacres, torture, including the water cure, and executed fifty Filipinos without trials. His subordinate, Captain Edmond Boltwood, told how he saw Funston administer the water cure to prisoners. Another soldier boasted he had used this torture on 160 individuals and only 26 had survived.
Isn't it time to come clean about torture -- and about the adherence to law and democracy we expect from our leaders?
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Oscar Chamberlain - 2/7/2008
Andrew D. Todd - 2/5/2008
To rephrase from Robert Bolt, _A Man For All Seasons_:
Michael, Michael, It profiteth a man not,
to gain the entire world,
if thereby he loseth his own soul...
But for a short-term, lame-duck, cabinet position???
William Marina - 2/4/2008
What was done in the Philippine Insurrection after 1898 was much more severe than the Water Boarding done these days; usually a pressure hose thrust down the throat.
Whether the victim "talked" or not, this usually caused stomach lesions that resulted in death by peritonitis.
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