More Evidence that Bush Is a "Dry Drunk"?





Ms. van Wormer is a Professor of Social Work at the University of Northern Iowa and co-author of Addiction Treatment: A Strengths Perspective.

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Paul O’Neill’s revelations, the primary source for Ron Suskind’s book The Price of Loyalty concerning the timing of George W Bush’s plans to overthrow Saddam in Iraq should have come as no surprise. The ostensible reasons for going to war -- the claimed link between Iraq and al-Queda and the claimed possession of weapons of mass destruction -- have been shown to be without substance. The typical explanation offered by the mainstream press and political pundits was that September 11 was a turning point.

What September 11 did was provide the justification. “From the start,” said Paul O’Neill in his book interview, “we were building the case against Hussein and looking at how we could take him out and change Iraq into a new country…It was about finding a way to do it that was the tone of it…the president saying, ‘Fine. Go find me a way to do this.’ And how would O’Neill know? O’Neill, as Secretary of the Treasury also sat on the National Security Council.

Even though, under pressure, while O’Neill has tried to tone down his statements, the mass media have continued to highlight the revelations. Missing from all the recent analyses and editorials, however, is any attention to the reason why: Why did Bush have this thing about Saddam? Why the “detour into an unnecessary war in Iraq?” as the U.S.Army War College recently put it.

“He tried to kill my Dad,” the President once explained. But I believe there was more to this unnecessary war than that. I believe there was a method in Bush’s madness, a method that most likely had as little to do with oil as it did to terrorism. For the answer we need to look deeply in the psyche of the man (inferred from his biography).

Earlier several other writers and I likened Bush’s personality characteristics to those of a person who, in AA parlance, is “dry” but whose thinking is not really sober. Grandiosity, rigidity, and intolerance of ambiguity, and a tendency to obsess about things are among the traits associated with the dry drunk. The dry drunk quits drinking, but his or her obsession with the bottle is often replaced with other obsessions. Twelve Step programs help their members modify their all-or-nothing thought patterns which associated with the disease alcoholism. “Easy does it” and “One day at a time” are among the slogans; the serenity prayer, similarly, helps persons with addictive tendencies to curb the tendency to excess.

In Bush’s irrational patterns of thought lie the clues to his single-minded obsession with Iraq. For the explanation for Bush’s vendetta against this one country, we have to look to his biography and to the meaning that Iraq held for his father.

The father-son relationship can be problematic in any family. When the father is considered a big hero, the first-born son, especially one bearing the father’s name, identity issues are common. As any chronology of George W Bush’s childhood will show, the son was set up to follow in the exact footsteps of his father. Sent away to the very New England prep school where his father’s accomplishments were still remembered, the younger Bush became better known for his pranks than athletic or academic achievements. His drinking bouts caused problems during his military service as well. (Remember that his father had been a war hero.) In college there was heavy drinking and other drug misuse, one arrest for a wild college prank and one conviction for drunken driving.

A much later religious conversion turned his life around. George W. Bush’s father set him up in business, and his father’s presidency helped him get his start in politics. His father, for all his success, experienced failure on three occasions. He was widely criticized for not finishing the job in Iraq-- for not moving the troops in to “take out” Saddam following the Gulf War victory--and he failed to get his bill to fund a NASA flight to Mars, and finally, he lost his bid for re-election.

What a unique opportunity has fallen George W Bush’s way. The prodigal son can not only prove himself to his father but he can show up his father at his own game. Remember that for his cabinet and key advisers, he chose some of the same men from his father’s regime. He chose people, furthermore, who would be favorable to a return campaign, “a crusade” against Iraq. Given his past history and tendency toward obsessiveness, the temptation to achieve heroism through a re-enactment of his father’s war clearly would have been too much for George Bush Jr. to resist.

To accomplish his mission he would have to throw caution and international diplomacy to the winds, lie convincingly to the American people, threaten allies, bully members of the United Nations, but in the end he would be able to dress in full military regalia and declare “mission accomplished.”

The fact that the targeting of Iraq had become one man’s personal crusade even seemed somewhat extreme to the father who was indirectly responsible. Yes, the man who knows George W. best, the person most familiar with his rashness of thought, indirectly sent him a message. In a speech at Tufts University, George Bush Sr. emphasized the need for the U.S. to maintain close ties with Europe and the UN. “You’ve got to reach out to the other person,” he advised.

More recently, Bush has raised an unprecedented amount of money for his re-election campaign. And his grandiose (and much ridiculed) plans to launch rockets to Mars (and the moon) could have been predicted. The method in his madness is clear once you understand the pattern. Whether the majority of the American people will ever see the light remains to be seen. The starting point may be Paul O’Neill’s revelations, because one is then to prone to ask the question, Why?


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Toni R Reed - 12/4/2009

I was told by my E.N.T. that my frontal lobe never developed to what it should have. The tests which wre needed for sinus surgery revealed this information. I am really trying to find a doctor to talk to about this because as fascinating as it is, it is also disappointing to me; it certainly explains certain issues.


Sean Durkin - 5/19/2004

I have worked with recovering alcoholics for over 18 years, and I have NEVER anyone who knows anything about the term "dry drunk" use if to describe people who merely stop going to meetings, has a bad day or any of the other over-simplified and oft-times erroneous "definitions" used to define the term in the earlier posting. The term applies to behavior - quite well defined in the articles by van Wormer and others - and when tied to the fact that Mr Bush clearly abused alcohol in the past, and when one looks at his patte3rn of behavior and his many failing of judgement, there is no escaping that his behaviors reflect the type of behavior that the vast majority of professionals treating alcoholism would call dry drunk behavior - as a pattern, as a regular part of his personality.

Regardless of what you call it, Mr Bush exhibits behaviors and results that are inappropriate for a man in his position. He has for his entire adult life. In the position he now holds, Daddy's friends cannot rescue him OR us.


Sara Lee Kwasont - 2/13/2004

You completely omitted the facts of terrorism as a driving force in this war.

HA!

Would those "facts" include a COMPLETE LACK OF PERPETRATED TERRORISM or proven terrorist affiliations by Iraqis against U.S. interests BEFORE our war?

Or are you referring to the "fact" of DAILY TERRORISM perpetrated against U.S., coalition, and Iraqi civilians AFTER AND BECAUSE of our war?

Or would Mr. Bush's INTERPLANETARY MISSION reveal the fact of Iraqi "weaspons of mass destruction program
activities" and the yellow cake uranium from Niger with a shipping label to Saddam smuggled to that known axis of interplanetary evil -- MARS?


Sara Lee Kwasont - 2/13/2004

You completely omitted the facts of terrorism as a driving force in this war. - Laura Lee Stewart [http://hnn.us/comments/29677.html]

HA!

Would those "facts" include a COMPLETE LACK OF PERPETRATED TERRORISM or proven terrorist affiliations by Iraqis against U.S. interests BEFORE our war?

Or are you referring to the "fact" of DAILY TERRORISM perpetrated against U.S.-coalition troops and Iraqi civilians AFTER AND BECAUSE of our war?

Or would Mr. Bush's INTERPLANETARY MISSION ultimately reveal the facts of Iraqi "weaspons of mass destruction program activities" or yellow cake uranium from Niger with a shipping label to Saddam diverted to that known axis of interplanetary evil -- MARS?


Steve -- R. - 2/13/2004

And you can explain away Bush's monomanical fixation by this weak ad hominum on Ms. Van Wormer?

Too bad. Bush suckered you into a war and you blame the messenger who asks us to consider Bush's mind set?

Interesting dodge, but a dodge just the same.


Rufus Firefly - 2/13/2004

Wow - 40 is considered "early years?" Just like Henry Hyde had a "youthful indiscretion" in his 40s?


Rufus Firefly - 2/13/2004

And the same for anti-Clinton people who STILL can't let him go.


Rufus Firefly - 2/13/2004

And from what I've seen of relatives and friends, when someone has a drug/alcohol addiction and kicks it, they invariably become VERY religious, even if the religious conversion doesn't occur until after the addiction is gotten over. Trading one obsession for another.


Rufus Firefly - 2/13/2004

And it's a good thing I'm 30 - I can't be held responsible for anything I do for 10 more years! Oh, I suppose I have to register as a Republican first...


arpod vespucci - 2/13/2004

That's a lot of big words for ms. worm. if only she could understand what you said.


arpod vespucci - 2/13/2004

Ms. worm must be so frustrated that her logic circuits have frozen.


arpod vespucci - 2/13/2004

it seems that you neolibs have continued trying to think. this is difficult, especially if you are infected with liberalism. as we all now know, liberalism IS a disease. the only sure cure is to think clearly.


arpod vespucci - 2/13/2004

it seems that you neolibs have continued trying to think. this is difficult, especially if you are infected with liberalism. as we all now know, liberalism IS a disease. the only sure cure is to think clearly.


arpod vespucci - 2/13/2004

Ms. worm is fixated on her own inadequacy and is projecting that onto others. It is unfortunate that she is not in a reeducation camp. If you are teaching, ms.worm, PLEASE STOP IMMEDIATELY! Only through wearing an aluminim foil cap can you cure your self.


arpod vespucci - 2/13/2004

after reading your almost unintelligible screed against W, i know understand why you are a professor at an obscure school, why you only have a masters degree and why you are without any redeeming intellectual substance. what a bunch of mumbly-neo-freudian claptrap. this is what passes for "writing"? please walk off into the closest cornfield and be gone from more civilized society. historian, my a**. you are a low-life, liberal, slimeball with a political view that is beyond reproach. may you lose your tenure, if you have it. you and your ilk make me sick.


arpod vespucci - 2/13/2004

I agree. Ms. Worm is just that. How misguided can these sad liberals be?


arpod vespucci - 2/13/2004

Ms. Worm is beyond contempt, if only for her biased ignorance. To think taxpayers foot the bill for her uninformed intellectualized drivel. If she is representative of so-called historians, God help her students.


arpod vespucci - 2/13/2004

Dear Rowan: you are a loser. face it. your fellow travelers and you need to stop whining and get your miserable lives in order (both intellectually and otherwise). i suggest a course at univ of n iowa on logic (not taught by ms worm). liberals are losing...and will continue to lose as more people see the discontinuity of your "thinking." Buzz Off.


joseph baltar - 2/7/2004

It seems Bozian has been sucking down to many paklavas and is suffering from a hyperglycemia reaction. If you go to http://www.cheniere.org and scroll down to the article KAWAI OVERUNITY MAGNETIC MOTOR you will find the US patent number filed by Hitachi corporation on July 25, 1995.
US PATENT 5436518.
You may want to check out the resume of Dr Tom Bearden but make sure your hard drive is big and your processor is fast to download all the material.
Gail Sheehy has an article in this weeks' NEW YORK OBSERVER about Nebraska Senator Bob Kerrey and the 9-11 Commission created by Dry Drunk Bush.
Kerrey appointed to the 9-11 Commission by Bush was outed two years ago as a war criminal in Viet-Nam and decided to not run for reelection. You might want to ask Attorney John DeCamp of Lincoln Nebraska about Bob Kerrey. DeCamp is the author of the book THE FRANKLIN COVERUP which details a national pedophile ring operating out of Omaha Nebraska and going all the way to the George Bush sr White House during the 1980's.
The pedophile ring was involved in the murder,torture, sexual abuse and murder of little children. One sinister
aspect of the ring was they used Manchurian Candidate behaviour modification techniques on some of the little children who were then used to lure in and kidnap other children. This tax funded research has been documented in the work of Canadian psychiatrist Dr. Ross in his book OPERATION BLUEBIRD.
The local police and FBI agents were involved in the cover up of the predators who were CEO'S of large corporations, politicans and priests from Boys Town.
The only person to take a fall was a black CEO of the FRANKLIN SAVINGS AND LOAN bank.
The Nebraska legislature appointed a special prosecutor to investigate the case but he died when his private plane exploded mysteriously on thew way back from Chicago
with his young son. The prosecutor Condoletti had received numerous death threats prior to the explosion.Author
John DeCamp had been elected to the Nebraska State Senate
while a soldier in Viet-Nam and served for 19 years as a Republican state senator. His mentor and best friend in Viet-Nam was William Colby architect of the controversial Phoenix Program who went on to become head of the CIA. Colby recently died under mysterious circumstances after meeting with DeCamp about the pedophile ring.
John DeCamp can tell you all about Bob Kerrey.
You do know what to do?
see http://www.andrewvachss.com if you are pedophile challenged.
joeb


Richard Bozian - 2/7/2004

No, it's not missing the point. Bush is the political representative of destructive decisions. Why do you want us to miss the point?


Richard Bozian - 2/7/2004

I've read the documents. What is described in the website's downloaded "technical literature" is a heat pump. You add a thermocouple and make all the claims you want about "unlimited energy". You don't have to know much science to figure out the website is full of bologna, just note that Bearden claims there is a patent for the device, but he does not show a patent number. On what basis does anybody claim a patent but doesn't include a patent number in the same breath? When there isn't a patent. Not even a "patent pending" number.

For form's sake, I looked and found a website addressing Bearden and the nonsense he and a number of other kooks associated with Bushadmin's energy department.

http://www.cassiopaea.org/quantum_future/bearden.htm

There are no magic solutions, only down-and-dirty use of the facts we have today. The best source of unlimited, harmless energy is sunlight and wind. A few thousand windmills in North Dakota can supply all the energy the US can use for less than $100 billion, and we have the energy grid to transport it anywhere we want. A few hundred square miles of solar panels can supply enough for the world, too. Solar panels on every commercial building would be a good, inexpensive start.

Nothing magical, just simple and effective. Only the extraction industries are against the obvious. We're missing out on one of the most profitable technological booms imaginable because the extraction industries have the lock on our political processes.

I don't know exactly why you ponder whether people suffering extermination wondered if the perpetrators were dry drunks, but I bet they wondered why it was being done to them. Interesting you relate that process to this one, it is similar. We want to know why Bushadmin is so strange, why Bushadmin decisions affecting the world are so destructive. The jury is out. Bushadmin is competing with the 20th Century in the field of worldwide destructiveness.


michael antalek - 2/5/2004

i think the debate over george bush's drinking and how it effects his judgement is possibly missing the point. he's not making the decisions coming out of the white house. dick cheney and karl rove are. watch bush when he speaks without a scripted speech. he can't express himself coherently because he doesn't understand the issues. that's why he doesn't do many press conferences. his handlers know he looks like a fool.

he's nothing more than a figurehead. he communicates what passes for policy these days. but he doesn't create policy.


joseph baltar - 2/4/2004

that is http://www.cheniere.org


joseph baltar - 2/4/2004

Tom Bearden has posted the patents for this device that produces free energy on his website so people can build their own. He also has photographs, times , places and engineers who tested this devive on his website http://www.chenier.org.
I wonder how many jews and gypsies sat around in Auschswitz pondering if Hitler was a dry drunk and perhaps
the reason they were about to be gassed was Hitler suffered Pre-frontal cortex damage during his student days. I wonder how many armenians sat around in Armenia in 1917 and debated if the the Sultan of Turkey was a dry drunk while turkish troops exterminated over 2 million armenians.just asking.


Rob Pri - 2/4/2004

I think this is an excellent point that a fundamentalist may wish to overlook. Nonetheless, the damage to the prefrontal cortex caused by alcohol abuse is proven through empirical research.

(Briefly) New evidence indicates that the human frontal lobe continues to develop into the twenty-fifth year of life.

Because the frontal lobe is where reasoning is done, when a human subject does not challenge the tools of reasoning (challenge commonly acquired through post secondary education) the chance of an underdeveloped thought process is exponential.

The argument is, if the subject does not involve themselves in some way of challenging their outlook or standard mode of operation by the time they are twenty-five and the frontal lobe stops development, the subject will process material in a “black and white” mode of reason (i.e. black and white thinkers) for the duration of their life.

To top this off, if an individual spends their young adult life abusing alcohol (regardless if they were in college or not [the alcohol drenched student brain cancels out any reason or constructive stimuli potentially acquired through post secondary edu]) the frontal lobe will be damaged beyond repair.

There are some additional issues that come with prefrontal cortex damage that are not necessary attributed to the underdeveloped frontal lobe. It is important to note that there is underdevelopment of the frontal lobe, and there is the destruction caused by alcohol. With frontal lobe damage, as opposed to underdevelopment, emotional aggressiveness is expected. Both subjects, however, appear only capable of simple reasoning one may commonly associate with the clichés, “your wrong, I’m right.”, “He either loves it or hates it.”, “good and evil.”,

While these clichés are not meant to pigeonhole any individual, they do offer an illustration of how incapacitating one’s abilities can be when deep contemplation and understanding of multilayered events is needed for success. “Damn those bastards who dare go against us” can only go so far.

To make matters more interesting, a little over seventy-five percent of all working adults have little education beyond the high school level. Unfortunately, “Damn those bastards” form of reason may appeal to far more “Americans” than one might imagine.


Sancar Olcay - 2/3/2004

I wish Rick was smart enough understand what he has written. Even if Kay's statement is true as quoted, what he says is that he thinks it is reasonable to reach the conclusion, but does not state whether his thinking or the conclusion by it self is true. While true logically, it is a meaningless statement. I can say it is reasonable to reach the conclusion that Rick is a fool, would that make Rick a fool?

As for the second part, Before the war Bush claimed that Iraq had purchased uranium, that Iraq had drones which could target US cities, Blair said that Iraq could deploy chemical weapons within 45 minutes. Powel said that Iraq had x tons of this poison, y tons of that poison. While all of them proved to be false I wonder what has Kay found that would make "Iraq a more dangerous place potentially, than in fact we thought it was even before the war." Did they find ICBM's and nuclear submarines.

Ofcourse the trick is again in the wording, the use of "potentially". Ofcourse potentially I can be the next president of US. But somehow I doubt Bush campaign manegers would take the threat seriosly

Sancar


Richard Bozian - 2/3/2004

I didn't say Bush invaded Iraq for any particular reason. I said his reasoning ability is likely impaired by drinking a lot of alcohol over a long period of time, because alcohol causes physical damage to the brain, specifically the area of the prefrontal cortex, which is the area of the brain responsible for the highest level of human reasoning.

In relation to the energy device you provided a link to, it is a simple matter for the builders of that device to generate the public support necessary for them to make everything they want to happen, to happen. There is no need to write Congress or buy their book. The web page declares they have a patent, protecting the idea from exposure to the public and possible infringment by other corporations, and that the device can be inexpensively built. They should simply publish the plans on their website with appropriate copyright notice and the fact the device is patented. It won't be too long before the contracts and Nobel prizes start pouring in after several hundred individuals examine the plans and build models to test the device for themselves. The fact the builders of this device don't do this simple thing is pretty good evidence that the goal of the website is to sell a book, not provide the world with unlimited energy.


joseph baltar - 2/3/2004

Bush probably consumes massive quantites of lamejune and gurabia. When it comes time to try him as a war criminal at the World Court in the Hague he will probably claim
the twinkies defense used by SFPD Officer White when he murdered Moscone and Harvey Milk.
There is a wonderful new book out called THE POX which lays out the evidence for famous people who had syphilis
including Schubert, Nietstche, Beethoven, Lincoln and Hitler. A strong argument is made for Hitler suffering
dementia from the last stages of syphilis during the last 5 years of his life. Maybe Bush has THE POX.
The last thing Bush would invade Iraq for is their oil.
We have enough oil to last us for the next 15 years or do we?
There is a great analysis on Bush, PEAK OIL and other oddities at former LAPD cop Mike Ruppert's website http://www.copvcia.com. (cop versus cia) . Ruppert has been exposing the CIA drug trafficking in our cities for over 20 years.
So if I understand you correctly you are saying Bush's behaviour is driven by his Dry Drunk traits that lead us into Iraq for Oil which leads us into Global (freezing) Warming.Does anyone want to discuss Global Freezing?
We just had the second coldest winter on record here in Maine.How bad is Global Freezing? See Pulitzer winner and recently retired Boston Globe enviornmental reporter Ross Gelbspan's website http://www.heatisonline.org.
What if I told you there is a device that puts out free unlimitless energy is pollution free and can be viewed at http://www.cheniere.org.


Richard Bozian - 2/3/2004

Alcohol damages the prefrontal cortex, which is the area of the brain responsible for the human's highest level of reasoning, particularly the ability to predict the future based on one's actions today. Plenty of science is available, read "Descarte's Error", for one. George Bush drank heavily for 20 years, so he's got brain damage, no doubt about it. Brain damage is reason enough to disqualify Bush as President. It also stands to reason that this damage also leads to certain patterns of reasoning associated with alcohol consumption, so I have no problem with the author's contentions.


HNN - 1/30/2004

I don't think you folks in the news media fully understand just what is going on with what has happened in Iraq or don't want to, But the fact is Iraq was invaded strictly for its oil and control of the middle east and started far back in the thirties. We all know Bush is a recovering drunk and probable used drugs in some of the parties he had been at,but this had nothing to do with the Iraqi war, this was Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfelds bailiwick and one CD call "uncovered", the truth about the Iraqi war and one cassette tape called "Hidden" about how this all got started in the first place. I suggest you get both of them they will show what really happen. I would say view Hidden first and then uncovered. Thanks Rich Meyer


David C Battle - 1/30/2004

As a "rightwinger", let me tell you that as long as you admit that this article amounts to nothing more than a "smear", then we so-called rightwingers won't go nearly as ballistic as you think we will.

It's when you try to paint this as anything more than smear that we go ballistic.


michael antalek - 1/30/2004

i haven't heard mr kay say anything about iraq being an
'imminent threat' but i'll take your word for it. i have heard him say that he thought iraq could have had weapons of mass destruction. shall we list all the other countries in the world that do?

bush told us there was an imminent threat of attack which was nonsense. iraq was contained. the iraqi army was just a shadow of what it was before desert storm. all saddam hussein could do was posture and act defiantly.

iraq was on the agenda for the bush administration long before 9/11. the 9/11 attack was just a pretext to invade.
and this administration has shamelessly deceived us all by suggesting that iraq was involved with international terrorism and had ties to al queada. they've used the fear caused by the 9/11 attacks to push a pre-existing plan.


James Benjamin - 1/30/2004

I guess the only thing I'd want to add is that there are other possible explanations for the behaviors of Bush that Professor van Wormer examines. One could, for instance, take a look at existing personality constructs, such as right-wing authoritarianism (a construct that's been researched extensively by social-personality psychologist Bob Altemeyer at the University of Manitoba). Much of the rigidity of thought, obsessiveness, and so forth characterized by van Wormer could merely be markers of someone who's highly authoritarian, a "normal personality trait" rather than resorting to an armchair diagnosis of pathology.

I'm not saying that Dubya isn't a dry drunk. We do know from the available research that chronic alcohol abusers are at risk to suffer permanent damage to parts of their brains -- especially those parts of the brain responsible for rational thought (e.g., the prefrontal region of the cerebral cortex). Maybe that's what's going on with Dubya. Maybe not. Without some sort of additional evidence, there's no real good way to test van Wormer's contention. In the mean time, I think I'll stick to more parsimonious explanations for Dubya's behaviors and leadership style.


joseph baltar - 1/30/2004

type benton k partin into google and read his letter to Sen Trent Lott then read his resume. go to unansweredquestions.org and order the video AFTERMATH which features Attorney Mary Schiavo and an honor roll list of people laying out the evidence for the US Government (read CIA-Military-FBI -Bush) being the principal architects behind 9-11.For your take home exam order the videos TRUTH AND LIES OF 9-11 from http://www.copvcia.com and SILENCED from Amazon.com.Then go back to http://www.okcbombing.org and read the new book FINAL REPORT by former republican state representative Charles Key who spearheaded the investigation into FBI agents involvement in the Oklahoma City bombing, then hustle over to THE NATIONAL WHISTLBLOWERS CENTER website and read the testimony of FBI lab whistleblower Dr Frederick Whitehurst PhD Chemistry/JD Law then go back to google and type in the name of Hoppy Heidelberg , a member of the Oklahoma City bombing grand jury and read his material on the cover-up then go back to Amazon.com and order the book by afro american author Dr Tyronne Powers called EYES TO MY SOUL in which he discusses his 9 years working as an FBI agent and how white agents tried to assassinate him while he was writing the book by blowing up his FBI issued vehicle while he was in it and while you are at it
order Professor Bud Schultz's recent book THE PRICE OF DISSENT which features interviews with American activists who survived tax payer funded FBI assassination attempts
and don't forget Pulitzer winner Ross Gelbspan's book BREAK INS DEATH THREATS AND THE FBI which details FBI agents collaborating with the death squads in El Salvador better yet go to his website http://www.heatisonline.org and when you get ready to do your paper on FBI agents involvement in the Martin Luther King assassination you will have to read Attorney William Pepper's book ORDERS TO KILL and then go to the Martin Luther King website and read the 1999 Civil Trial court transcript in Memphis where the King family sued one of the Mafia assassins of Dr King and the jury voted in their favor and held a press conference saying "the FBI was a principal architect in King's assassination",then you type the names of two Boston FBI agents into google John Connolly
and Paul Rico and you will discover Rico was just extradited to Tulsa Oklahoma for collaborating with the Boston Mafia in the murder of Tulsa millionaire Wheeler
and Connolly was just sentenced to 10 years in prison for his collaboration with the Boston Mafia in the murder of 21 children,women and men in Boston as detailed in two recent books DEADLY ALLIANCE by Ralph Ranalli and BLACK MASS by Gerard O'Neil and Dick Lehr. The FBI agent Paul Rico died in jail under mysterious circumstances this week as he was set to go to trial and name names of the other FBI agents in Boston involved in the 21 murders.Don't waste your time tracing these names on the civil lawsuits currently pending in Boston against the FBI office. These suits now total $2 Billion dollars.
The question is who was going to replace communism as the boogeyman once the Berlin wall fell.Taxpayer funded FBI agents created a new one within months of the destruction of the Berlin Wall. Ask New York Attorney Ron Kuby why FBI agents hired a known terroist named Ahmet who organized a group of other terrorists and provided them with the knowledge and materials that were used in the first World Trade Center bombing.Why was Ahmet fired by his FBI handlers after the bomb was built and why did taxpayer funded FBI agents allow these terrorists to detonate the bomb. Better yet type Ron Kuby into google and read the trial transcript.
Remember, second semester starts in two weeks.
from a never writer to ever readers, NEWES.
joeb


joseph baltar - 1/30/2004

type benton k partin into google and read his letter to Sen Trent Lott then read his resume. go to unansweredquestions.org and order the video AFTERMATH which features Attorney Mary Schiavo and an honor roll list of people laying out the evidence for the US Government (read CIA-Military-FBI -Bush) being the principal architects behind 9-11.For your take home exam order the videos TRUTH AND LIES OF 9-11 from http://www.copvcia.com and SILENCED from Amazon.com.Then go back to http://www.okcbombing.org and read the new book FINAL REPORT by former republican state representative Charles Key who spearheaded the investigation into FBI agents involvement in the Oklahoma City bombing, then hustle over to THE NATIONAL WHISTLBLOWERS CENTER website and read the testimony of FBI lab whistleblower Dr Frederick Whitehurst PhD Chemistry/JD Law then go back to google and type in the name of Hoppy Heidelberg , a member of the Oklahoma City bombing grand jury and read his material on the cover-up then go back to Amazon.com and order the book by afro american author Dr Tyronne Powers called EYES TO MY SOUL in which he discusses his 9 years working as an FBI agent and how white agents tried to assassinate him while he was writing the book by blowing up his FBI issued vehicle while he was in it and while you are at it
order Professor Bud Schultz's recent book THE PRICE OF DISSENT which features interviews with American activists who survived tax payer funded FBI assassination attempts
and don't forget Pulitzer winner Ross Gelbspan's book BREAK INS DEATH THREATS AND THE FBI which details FBI agents collaborating with the death squads in El Salvador better yet go to his website http://www.heatisonline.org and when you get ready to do your paper on FBI agents involvement in the Martin Luther King assassination you will have to read Attorney William Pepper's book ORDERS TO KILL and then go to the Martin Luther King website and read the 1999 Civil Trial court transcript in Memphis where the King family sued one of the Mafia assassins of Dr King and the jury voted in their favor and held a press conference saying "the FBI was a principal architect in King's assassination",then you type the names of two Boston FBI agents into google John Connolly
and Paul Rico and you will discover Rico was just extradited to Tulsa Oklahoma for collaborating with the Boston Mafia in the murder of Tulsa millionaire Wheeler
and Connolly was just sentenced to 10 years in prison for his collaboration with the Boston Mafia in the murder of 21 children,women and men in Boston as detailed in two recent books DEADLY ALLIANCE by Ralph Ranalli and BLACK MASS by Gerard O'Neil and Dick Lehr. The FBI agent Paul Rico died in jail under mysterious circumstances this week as he was set to go to trial and name names of the other FBI agents in Boston involved in the 21 murders.Don't waste your time tracing these names on the civil lawsuits currently pending in Boston against the FBI office. These suits now total $2 Billion dollars.
The question is who was going to replace communism as the boogeyman once the Berlin wall fell.Taxpayer funded FBI agents created a new one within months of the destruction of the Berlin Wall. Ask New York Attorney Ron Kuby why FBI agents hired a known terroist named Ahmet who organized a group of other terrorists and provided them with the knowledge and materials that were used in the first World Trade Center bombing.Why was Ahmet fired by his FBI handlers after the bomb was built and why did taxpayer funded FBI agents allow these terrorists to detonate the bomb. Better yet type Ron Kuby into google and read the trial transcript.
Remember, second semester starts in two weeks.
from a never writer to ever readers, NEWES.
joeb


James Benjamin - 1/30/2004

No, Rowan's point is more along the lines of stating what is to me the obvious: there is a double standard at work. Right-wingers have this tendency to go ballistic if someone writes or says something nasty about one of their own while at the very same time right-wingers have no problem at all with smearing their real and imagined enemies. Whatever I might think about the article that started all of this (in two words: not much), I do find it amusing to watch right-wing types whine and complain because someone else has decided to use their tactics on them. Karma. Gotta love it.


James Benjamin - 1/30/2004

and the smear "HNN mullahs" is real civil too.


michael antalek - 1/30/2004

'bush hatred' is a semantic ploy used by the right to refer to anyone who criticizes bush as 'hateful'. in other words, someone driven by irrational anger and therefore, not to be taken seriously.


Dave W Otto - 1/30/2004

What is the meaning of dry drunk? Does it describe an actual physiological state of functioning? Is it behavioral pattern or spiral that a person is caught in?

If a dry drunk has a good day, or a good week, or month – is he considered to be in recovery? Or, maybe a dry drunk in remission?

That’s not to say that Dry-Drunk doesn’t have a meaning. Within the A.A. sub-culture it is a very useful term that a). acculturates new comers to the concept that sobriety is a long term enterprise that cannot be taken for granted, and b). serves as a kind of catch all for understanding the aberrant behavior of ‘sober’ peers.

Many people come into AA having done significant damage to most realms of their lives. They come into the rooms demoralized, vulnerable, and in most cases devoid of confidence.

AA, and the 12 steps hold out hope. “If you work these steps you can and will get better.” The problem is that once you attend more than a few AA meetings you’ll start to notice that just because some people are at meetings doesn’t mean they are well adjusted, or sane, or employed, or happy, or any of the other things that the new comer might want to get out of the 12 steps.

So dry-drunk ends up being used as a proxy to cover a range of behaviors, life problems, or pickles the abstinent person might find them in. In short,


I’ve seen ‘dry-drunk’ used as a trope to explain the absence of long term members who quit attending meetings. A much unspoken secret in AA, almost reaching the level of taboo, is that there are people with long term ‘quality’ sobriety who no longer attend meetings. They’ll show up once or twice a year, usually on an anniversary, to pick up a medallion for another year in recovery.

There is no talk in A.A. about the notion that you can quit attending meetings after a sufficient period and be OK. In fact, the newcomer, ‘the most important person in the room’ is being taught just the opposite. So ‘dry-drunk’ is a handy folk psychology for explaining to the new comer where do these old timers materialize from and where do they go when they are gone.

As for the validity of Professor van Wormer’s evidence. The truth of the matter is that the term Dry-Drunk is utterly devoid of prescriptive qualities, overly broad as a descriptive category, and highly suspect as paradigm for understanding the Bush presidency.

If I were sponsoring a ‘pigeon’ that came from patrician roots and had political aspirations I would be inclined to point to George Bush as an example of recovery gone awry. However, to try to apply that concept beyond the sub-culture where it has meaning is inappropriate as the term itself really has no real meaning in the broader context of politics and culture.

However, I do applaud the attempt. The fields of psychology and psychiatry are so detached form the human –in the act of being – that they risk becoming totally irrelevant. My take is that those fields have already passed into irrelevance long ago.

How else to explain that at a water shed point in our history, when ideological forces are on the march, the psychological voice of the day belongs to stage performer like Dr. Phil or a hack pseudo-psychologist like Dr. Laura?

We are at a point in history that is screaming for a sweeping reevaluation of human psychology and our relationships to power and the state. We need the next Freud (I’d prefer Adler) and all we get is Dr. Phil? It is in that context that I applaud Professor van Wormer’s willingness to step forward with an attempt to understand, to find meaning, in what many people experience as the deeply troubling behavior of this President.

Here’s hoping that some brave soul sets up shop at the intersections of history, culture, and psychology and gives us a paradigm for understanding this brave new world. Existing paradigms are no longer cutting the mustard – although from a limited perspective – dry drunk works as well as any.


Dan J Hough - 1/29/2004

Having raised a child who grew into an addict as an adult, the insights in the article are frighteningly close to my experience with my son. Once he obssesed on an idea there was no dissuading him, to the point that he drove all around him crazy. What is also consistent with the descriptions of Bush was my son's lack of curiosity on issues or the willingness to discuss alternative strategies outside the focus of his obsession. Now, when talking about other high powered leaders, I believe we are talking about Type A personalities, and not people who maintain addictive behavior while in recovery (as the author is suggesting). The key differentiator being that the type A personality is usually intellectually curious and willing to debate ideas to defend their chosen course of action. As other parts of O'Neills testimony suggest, Bush is not curious, does not engage in discourse or discussion, and seems to be totally disengaged.


mark safranski - 1/29/2004

Oops - didn't mean to hit the post key !

"In Bush’s irrational patterns of thought lie the clues to his single-minded obsession with Iraq. For the explanation for Bush’s vendetta against this one country, we have to look to his biography and to the meaning that Iraq held for his father."

There's a number of problems with this theory. One is that the Iraq policy more or less evolved with continuity from Bush I through Clinton to Bush II with " regime change " becoming a consensus view for American policy circa 1998. Bush II acted on a policy already decided upon, we can quibble about methods but certainly not objectives regarding Iraq. Clinton and Bush the elder were not " dry drunks " were they ?

Secondly, these so called " dry drunk " characteristics appear in many high-powered individuals, particularly national leaders without regard to alcohol consumption. Nixon, Hitler, LBJ, Churchill,Stalin all had these " obsessive " and "rigid " qualities but Nixon and Hitler barely consumed alcohol, LBJ did so socially and Churchill was a very heavy drinker. What evidence is there that alcohol is even related to such personality patterns ? FDR and JFK drank liberally but their thinking was relatively pragmatic and flexible.

Perhaps the true point here is orientation toward simplification or complexity in terms of pattern recognition. Churchill, Hitler and Bush were simplifiers while LBJ, JFK, FDR emphasized nuance and complexity in their thinking.


mark safranski - 1/29/2004


Ron Turner - 1/29/2004

Everybody's entitled to their opinions. But I worry more and more that the fine line between personal opinion and expert opinion is being crossed.

Supporters of the "dry drunk" theory like Katherine van Warmer need to come clean that their criticism of Bush is entirely driven by personal hatred and not backed up by an ounce of hard science at all. They are embarassing the fields of history and psychology. And I for one not only question their credibility, but their own mental health.


Ron Turner - 1/29/2004

I agree that Bush is imperfect. He's a human being just like the rest of us. But I wouldn't put too much stock in the so-called "Hunting the President" documentary because it was outright produced by Clinton supporters, and thus is extremely biased.


michael antalek - 1/29/2004

so far, the bush administration hasn't contradicted the claims made by o'neill. they've tried to undermine his credibility in various ways but that's what they do when anybody criticizes them.

they immediately started an investigation to find out if any classified material was compromised by o'neill in his book. too bad they didn't show the same zeal for national security when they outed that CIA operative, joe wilson's wife, in an effort to intimidate others who might want to criticize them.

iraq represented an opportunity to certain people advising bush. they saw an opportunity to defeat a relatively weak regime and install a 'democracy' that would be friendly to us and would be a center of influence that would help spread democracy to the authoritarian regimes in the middle east. bush sent our troops to iraq to implement this idea, not because iraq posed a threat to us. and now we have over 500 dead american soldiers and billions of dollars in debt as a result.

as for 'terrorism' in iraq, that's just another myth perpetuated by the bush administration to justify their invasion. the fact is, international terrorism didn't exist in iraq until we invaded the country and provided jihadis with plenty of american targets.


rick matlick - 1/29/2004

Ms. van Wormer is a dry liar.

From her opening paragraph--he claimed possession of weapons of mass destruction -- have been shown to be without substance.

au contraire
Mr. Kay told National Public Radio that, based on the evidence he has seen from Iraq, "I think it was reasonable to reach the conclusion that Iraq posed an imminent threat." He added that "I must say I actually think what we learned during the inspection made Iraq a more dangerous place potentially, than in fact we thought it was even before the war."

What is a sociologist writing pycho-babble history doing in this forum, anyway?


Kevin C Cole - 1/29/2004

Great post there, Arpod. A shining example of alcohol-fueled illiteracy. Her political view is "beyond reproach" you say, as you hurl misspelt invective meant to deliver a reproach. It would seem she's hit a nerve for you, though you hardly seem to be a "dry" drunk yet.


lambert strether - 1/29/2004

Oops!!

http://corrente.blogspot.com/2003_11_02_corrente_archive.html#106797186211120590">here.

Try again!


lambert strether - 1/29/2004

The definition of "civil" is http://corrente.blogspot.com/2003_11_02_corrente_archive.html#106797186211120590">here at Corrente in our Lexicon of Liberal Invective.

Enjoy!


Vernon Clayson - 1/29/2004

Katherine van Wormer apparently teaches and has written about addiction treatment but, in effect, condemns a person,in this case, President Bush, for beating the addiction monster. Does she tell her students or patients, if she has them, that you can beat the monster but it will be replaced by another monster? Does she tell them that if they succeed in any field after taming the old monster, there is no hope, your character is as lost to the new monster, success? I don't believe the vast majority of our citizens, including academics, have the faintest idea of the pressures that bear on the highest office in the land. They can read about it, they can reason about it, they can even portray it, e.g., Martin Sheen, but the only one who can know is the office holder. Bill Clinton obviously enjoyed being president but my bet is he would approach it differently than he did.


Laura Lee Stewart - 1/28/2004

To implicate that Bush was driven to war in Iraq to please his daddy is about as rational as considering the blithering idiot O'Neill's diatribe as factual basis. It terrifies me that the academia can use their own narcissist opinion and call it historical documentation. Please. Save your opinions for the rest of you who wish to be uninformed. You completely omitted the facts of terrorism as a driving force in this war. Dry drunk is probably just a mirror reflection.


TinCan Man - 1/28/2004

...and we are paying these people to educate our children. What utter tripe.


David Battle - 1/28/2004

Oh, I see your "logic".

If Clinton is a rapist, then it follows that Bush is a "drunk". nya nya nya nya nya!!!

This article belongs in an AOL chatroom, not HNN.


michael antalek - 1/28/2004

it's interesting to see a psychological perspective of bush's behavior. but the implication is that bush is the source of policy in the white house. from what i've seen and read about him, i can't see him as anything but a telegenic frontman for dick cheney, karl rove, grover norquist and assorted neocoms.

this is a guy who told america in a TV interview that he doesn't need to read about issues. he has 'objective' advisors to give him the information he needs. how can he even assess the information he gets if he hasn't done the work to understand the issues? i suppose he thinks that his objective advisors don't have agendas of their own.

when john kennedy was in the midst of the cuban missle crisis, he was advised to invade by some of his advisors. others counseled caution. but he was the one to weigh their arguements and come to a decision. can you see george w bush in that situation?

his apparent intellectual laziness makes him unfit to deal with the complexity of issues that every president must deal with. how can he hold his own in policy discussions? he can't construct coherent sentences without a script to follow.

he's nothing more than a figurehead who's content to let others tell him what to do and say.


John H. Lederer - 1/28/2004

This kind of drivel masquerading as a article ruins serious discussion as easily as less elegant pejoratives.


Jeffrey Davis - 1/27/2004

"Going after Bush because he partied in his early years is considered shrewd political analysis."

I don't much like psychoanalysis from a distance, but the post didn't attack Bush for his partying. Couching criticism in psychological terms is nothing new. The tactic made several people money during the 90s. (And Clinton wasn't the only president to be accused of rape --Kitty Kelly reported an accusation of that against Reagan.)


Jeffrey Davis - 1/27/2004


Rowan Morrigan - 1/27/2004

This article was so much fun to read! The previous comments are reactionary and irrational. So Clinton is a "rapist" but Bush isn't an alcoholic?
I just saw the new movie "The Hunting of the President" (based on the book of the same title). It's an incredible documentary showing how conservative right-wing crazies stalked Clinton throughout his entire career, never finding anything until Lewinsky, then set an ugly precedent that a standing president could be tried for lying about something unrelated to the office. (The film was at Sundance Film Festival so I don't know when it will be distributed.) The filmmakers said at the end that Bush Jr has gotten a free ride because the Dems don't want to apply the same vicious tactics the conservative right used. So, yes, Bush is a dry drunk if Clinton is a "rapist." You can't have it both ways, guys. Bush is imperfect just like everyone else who has helmed the oval office and his clay feet are getting muddy.


Richard Henry Morgan - 1/27/2004

Just a few weeks past, Dr. Dean, Governor of Vermont and candidate, offered that Bush needed psychotherapy. The professional medical licensing boards rather frown on diagnosis at a distance and will, if they have to, dispense discipline for such unprofessional behaviour. Prof. Wormer adds that Bush has "a single-minded obssession with Iraq." I would think that this sort of conclusion would come at the end of a lengthy clinical assessment. How much time a day does he devote to the subject, relative to its importance? I admire Prof. Wormer's ability to read minds -- it's too bad she doesn't work for the CIA, where her impressive mind-reading skills could be put to even better use.


David C Battle - 1/27/2004


Going after Clinton because he was a womanizer and a rapist (if you believe his accuser) was "uncivil" (it's only sex). Going after Bush because he partied in his early years is considered shrewd political analysis.


David C Battle - 1/27/2004


Bush fixated on Iraq because he's suffering from delirium tremens you say? I thought he fought the war over oil? Or was that Haliburton? And why blame Bush if "Karl Rove" is the REAL president?

You need to get your stories right already.


Bill Heuisler - 1/26/2004

This is mean-spirited opinion that misses the mark and splatters the author with saliva. Twice Ms. Wormer has tried this premise on HNN and it has become indulgent and self-conscious. Grandiosity, rigidity, intolerance of ambiguity, and a tendency to obsess about things are among the traits associated with many military officers, politicians and professors. Despite Ms Wormer's quasi-academic spelunking, her criticisms might well describe precisely what makes men and women excell in these fields.
Bill Heuisler


Tom L Cox - 1/26/2004

How civil is this? Not very but since this falls into more of what people are calling Op-Ed it is to be expected


John Brennan - 1/26/2004

I guess smearing the president with this type of psycho-babble does not go below the bar set as to what constitutes "civil" in the view of HNN's mullahs.


Greg Oubre - 1/26/2004

Truly, you would have to be a "Wet Drunk" to beleive Miss van Wormer's wishful, liberal, blind thoughts.

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